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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 01:48 PM
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I am planning on upgrading my swaybars and Im wondering if anyone knows if the rear swaybars are neccesary to replace? Would replacing just the front swaybars be better than replacing both? Ive heard that the rear can slip out quite alot easier in this car than others and thus getting a stiffer rear swaybar would pronounce this tendency, no?

I've had my car for almost two years now and have never experienced this, even when driving hard. I believe it has alot to do with driving style, when it comes to the rear slipping out. Any reccomendations/opinions?

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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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I think the conventional wisdom goes something like:
"DONT GET THE REAR BAR JUST FRONT 1 OR UR GONNA SPIN OUT I HAVE MUGENS ITS CRAZY GOOD - PEACE"


Now for some non-conventional wisdom. I was just looking at this last night so comments and suggestions are welcome.
1) Let's first agree that sway bars don't affect a car's grip, per se, so much as the overall balance of the car at the limit. So, all else equal, a stiffer bar in front (or rear) causes the balance to shift toward understeer (or oversteer).
2) The torsional rigidity of a sway bar varies as the 4th power of its diameter, and (assuming the bars under consideration mount in the same places) is the key factor in determining how much effect it will have.
3) The stock S2000's handling balance is "daringly neutral".

Let's take an example. The stock sawybar diameters are 28 mm (F) and 27.2 mm
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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 04:20 PM
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Thanks for the read on that....does anyone have both?

I beleive if you have both you would be subject to greater tendency to oversteer than the stock set up.
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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 04:24 PM
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you really dont want both. you REALLY dont. owners who have put them on with the larger front bar remove it - because in some corners, your rear end will just come around on you and that's just not safe or stable at all!
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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 04:30 PM
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Randy,

I think your referring to autocrossing, right? Would u still reccomend just the fronts during normal driving in the city, the twisties, or the mountains? I think either way, having just the fronts will be more forgiving just in case u do something stupid like letting off mid corner on anything (auto cross or twisties).
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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 04:31 PM
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I haven't autox'ed this car yet. I've only taken it to a few DE's, and haven't experienced a DE with the bar yet - that will be next month. But, many spirited drives and twisty roads. I think it feels more solid and just helps control the rear end mucho better.
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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 04:36 PM
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Whats DE's? LOL...
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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Schatten
[B]you really dont want both.
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