Swinging the s2000
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Oh god, here we go. The "I've done it for years and miraculously been fine so others should be fine too" philosophy. First off, I really doubt you've been drifting public roads on a regular basis for 10 straight years and never had an accident/caused an accident. If you have, you are extremely lucky.
And, since I know the comment about luck will likely lead to a response of "nuh uh, it's all my mad skillz" I'll respond to that as well. Drifting on the street is unpredictable. You never know when some kid is going to step out from behind a parked car, or somebody's dog will run into the street, or there will be a deer standing in the road, or there will be a pothole you can't see, or water runoff, or a box that fell off a truck, etc etc. These things don't happen at the track.
No matter how much skill you have, drifting/street racing will always be gambling with your life and the lives of innocent people on the road around you. How would you feel if you gave the advice you're giving to someone less experienced than you, who promptly went drifting and spun out into a car full of your family/friends? They didn't ask to be put in danger, and his only justification would be "I was too cheap to go to the track" or "I was just having some fun" or "I thought I could control it, I've been doing it for years".
There is no justification for driving like a dumbass on public roads. None. Grow up and learn to drive responsibly before you kill someone.
And, since I know the comment about luck will likely lead to a response of "nuh uh, it's all my mad skillz" I'll respond to that as well. Drifting on the street is unpredictable. You never know when some kid is going to step out from behind a parked car, or somebody's dog will run into the street, or there will be a deer standing in the road, or there will be a pothole you can't see, or water runoff, or a box that fell off a truck, etc etc. These things don't happen at the track.
No matter how much skill you have, drifting/street racing will always be gambling with your life and the lives of innocent people on the road around you. How would you feel if you gave the advice you're giving to someone less experienced than you, who promptly went drifting and spun out into a car full of your family/friends? They didn't ask to be put in danger, and his only justification would be "I was too cheap to go to the track" or "I was just having some fun" or "I thought I could control it, I've been doing it for years".
There is no justification for driving like a dumbass on public roads. None. Grow up and learn to drive responsibly before you kill someone.
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Oh god, here we go. The "I've done it for years and miraculously been fine so others should be fine too" philosophy. First off, I really doubt you've been drifting public roads on a regular basis for 10 straight years and never had an accident/caused an accident. If you have, you are extremely lucky.
And, since I know the comment about luck will likely lead to a response of "nuh uh, it's all my mad skillz" I'll respond to that as well. Drifting on the street is unpredictable. You never know when some kid is going to step out from behind a parked car, or somebody's dog will run into the street, or there will be a deer standing in the road, or there will be a pothole you can't see, or water runoff, or a box that fell off a truck, etc etc. These things don't happen at the track.
No matter how much skill you have, drifting/street racing will always be gambling with your life and the lives of innocent people on the road around you. How would you feel if you gave the advice you're giving to someone less experienced than you, who promptly went drifting and spun out into a car full of your family/friends? They didn't ask to be put in danger, and his only justification would be "I was too cheap to go to the track" or "I was just having some fun" or "I thought I could control it, I've been doing it for years".
There is no justification for driving like a dumbass on public roads. None. Grow up and learn to drive responsibly before you kill someone.
And, since I know the comment about luck will likely lead to a response of "nuh uh, it's all my mad skillz" I'll respond to that as well. Drifting on the street is unpredictable. You never know when some kid is going to step out from behind a parked car, or somebody's dog will run into the street, or there will be a deer standing in the road, or there will be a pothole you can't see, or water runoff, or a box that fell off a truck, etc etc. These things don't happen at the track.
No matter how much skill you have, drifting/street racing will always be gambling with your life and the lives of innocent people on the road around you. How would you feel if you gave the advice you're giving to someone less experienced than you, who promptly went drifting and spun out into a car full of your family/friends? They didn't ask to be put in danger, and his only justification would be "I was too cheap to go to the track" or "I was just having some fun" or "I thought I could control it, I've been doing it for years".
There is no justification for driving like a dumbass on public roads. None. Grow up and learn to drive responsibly before you kill someone.
Sorry if I came across the wrong way. Im not trying to sound like a smart ass but there are times when its totally safe to slide around a bit on the street. Imagine its 3am and you are at a large intersection with no cars and no one in sight. Im sure many people here have slid their cars as long as it was safe. The same can be said about onramps. I never said anything about show boating in traffic. I wasnt trying to be arrogant, just saying that if you use a bit of common sense you can have some fun safely. This can be said about anything in life. Gun ownership, alcohol, smoking.. the list goes on. Common sense and discretion people! Dont act like you have never broken the speed limit. That can be dangerous as well.
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Sorry if I came across the wrong way. Im not trying to sound like a smart ass but there are times when its totally safe to slide around a bit on the street. Imagine its 3am and you are at a large intersection with no cars and no one in sight. Im sure many people here have slid their cars as long as it was safe. The same can be said about onramps. I never said anything about show boating in traffic. I wasnt trying to be arrogant, just saying that if you use a bit of common sense you can have some fun safely. This can be said about anything in life. Gun ownership, alcohol, smoking.. the list goes on. Common sense and discretion people! Dont act like you have never broken the speed limit. That can be dangerous as well.
If you were using common sense and discretion you wouldn't be drifting on the street. Sure, you're using more discretion than someone who does it at rush hour, but not nearly as much as someone who does it in a sanctioned venue with paramedics, a fire crew, and a helmet.
Bottom line, you're choosing to endanger innocent unsuspecting people on the roads around you because it's inconvenient for you to go to the track.
Oh, and are you really going to compare the danger levels of powersliding sideways through intersections and going 10mph over the limit with the flow of traffic? Really?
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From: Columbia, South Carolina
Ima throw my 2 cents worth in and then go put on my fire retardant suit, so flame on.
I am a 19 year old driver, my line up of cars has been a 96 mustang (v6), Celica GT-S 2002, a 1999 integra GS-R, and now my 2002 S2k. Kept trading cars around till i was happy with my integra and my s2k. I know as a driver i trashed my mustang, and i have a little bit of an adrenaline junky side. Living in the country, you learn alot about how to steer, plenty of sharp turns and twisty roads. Ive slid and broke loose plenty of times, and it is a little exciting. I dont care who you are, you were young once, and everyone is a little reckless at times. Give the guy a break, i promise you he will learn one way or another. I have seen a kid die when his dads 911 turbo lost traction and he hit a tree sideways at 70, and i learned my lesson, and i know ive seen PLENTY of drivers at the meet do much stupider things than this guy, and WITH people around.
But it looks like the guy tucked tail and ran off the forums, and just as a point, he may have made friend, or at some point helped some one else out on here and become a contributing member, which is becoming something of a rarity, and i havent even been here very long and ive seen it slipping away. +1 guys.
Oh, and:
I've never been in an accident
only had 1 speeding ticket (77 in a 70, while cars were still passing me)
and ive always maintained my vehicles meticulously, never had any major issues
*knocks HARD on wood*
I am a 19 year old driver, my line up of cars has been a 96 mustang (v6), Celica GT-S 2002, a 1999 integra GS-R, and now my 2002 S2k. Kept trading cars around till i was happy with my integra and my s2k. I know as a driver i trashed my mustang, and i have a little bit of an adrenaline junky side. Living in the country, you learn alot about how to steer, plenty of sharp turns and twisty roads. Ive slid and broke loose plenty of times, and it is a little exciting. I dont care who you are, you were young once, and everyone is a little reckless at times. Give the guy a break, i promise you he will learn one way or another. I have seen a kid die when his dads 911 turbo lost traction and he hit a tree sideways at 70, and i learned my lesson, and i know ive seen PLENTY of drivers at the meet do much stupider things than this guy, and WITH people around.
But it looks like the guy tucked tail and ran off the forums, and just as a point, he may have made friend, or at some point helped some one else out on here and become a contributing member, which is becoming something of a rarity, and i havent even been here very long and ive seen it slipping away. +1 guys.
Oh, and:
I've never been in an accident
only had 1 speeding ticket (77 in a 70, while cars were still passing me)
and ive always maintained my vehicles meticulously, never had any major issues
*knocks HARD on wood*
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You younger folk do have a problem. Your cars, & their tyres, are too good for you.
We older blokes learnt on cars with 100 BHP or less, on 4 inch rims, & narrow tyres. Some of us were even on cross ply tyres.
These cars slid so easily they were easy to control. The power was often barely sufficient to get the tail out, & definitely not enough to spit us out into the scenery.
For those of tou just starting, take the good advice, & go do propper competition stuff. You'll be amazed at how much coaching the good people will give you, if you keep a small head on your shoulders.
We older blokes learnt on cars with 100 BHP or less, on 4 inch rims, & narrow tyres. Some of us were even on cross ply tyres.
These cars slid so easily they were easy to control. The power was often barely sufficient to get the tail out, & definitely not enough to spit us out into the scenery.
For those of tou just starting, take the good advice, & go do propper competition stuff. You'll be amazed at how much coaching the good people will give you, if you keep a small head on your shoulders.
I bought an 82 RX7 GSL (clutch diff) and it's a hoot at road legal speeds. I keep winter tires on year round for rallycross and ice racing and I find myself really enjoying that car around town. More so than a car with higher limits that I can't / won't get near on public streets.
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I've closed my eyes and crossed the street plenty of times without getting plowed by a car.
It's totally safe to do that at 3am.
Right?
Take it to the track or to a closed course. When you're drifting around the corner and you take out the guy on the side of the road who was changing his flat tire, you're going to jail.
It's totally safe to do that at 3am.
Right?
Take it to the track or to a closed course. When you're drifting around the corner and you take out the guy on the side of the road who was changing his flat tire, you're going to jail.
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From: Amesbury, MA
Translation of the OP:
All in good fun, don't take it personally.
In all seriousness though, the street is not the place to be practicing your drifting technique. You'll get yourself or someone else killed (and raise our insurance premiums). Take it to the track and learn to enjoy it safely.
Originally Posted by jstyle711' timestamp='1302761303' post='20465116
The ground was wet today so I decided to throw the car through a couple of turns drive recklessly. Surprisingly it performed pretty well I didn't crash, granted this was in wet conditions. My experience with drifting is nothing compared to a pro, but I consider myself a decent drifter subarashiiii dorifto master given any RWD vehicle. I don't plan on doing this competitively at the track, just recreational on the street. I would like to hear your guys thoughts on how well poorly the car drifts. I understand that this vehicle isn't setup to drift, just grip. But my impressions were that it was very smooth I didn't crash through every turn I took it through and the throttle control during a slide is very similar to an ae86 Initial D.
BTW I'm very new to this forum. I have a black 01 s2000 with stock suspension on spoon springs.
- John
BTW I'm very new to this forum. I have a black 01 s2000 with stock suspension on spoon springs.
- John
In all seriousness though, the street is not the place to be practicing your drifting technique. You'll get yourself or someone else killed (and raise our insurance premiums). Take it to the track and learn to enjoy it safely.
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so many lulz in this thread
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OP: I'll give it to you straight. Your wasting your time here if your not talking mods. I have only been here a few months. If your not a veteran your assumed retarded. With that said, try your local scca scene and they will definitely teach you a few things about the s2k that these book wizards never experienced. The s2k is a machine but it was made to be driven. Do I? No. Simply cause I don't want to have to afford to fix it.
