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Old May 25, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonw,May 25 2005, 02:59 PM
I don't doubt it but, it still might not be worth the added cost...especially if the engine isn't the first major thing to break...

Imagine having a $3,000 car that needs $1,500 in tranny repairs or something. Wouldn't you be glad that you hadn't been wasting money on synthetic motor oil?
yeah but that's the gamble. i'd rather have to replace a $1500 tranny, than buy a used/reworked $3000+ engine.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonw,May 25 2005, 03:13 PM
Hopefully you won't have any additional data anytime soon!

That's the nature of the experiment. You would really need to have multiple cars that switch at different intervals but rack up mileage at the same rate. And you couldn't even begin to draw any conclusions until you get the first engine failure(Which may not be related)... Maybe you would see different oil consumption rates earlier on...
I'm still unsure how this is an "experiment"?

Do you mean to tell me that the honda engineers who built the car don't know what they're talking about?
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Old May 25, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,May 25 2005, 02:30 PM
yeah but that's the gamble. i'd rather have to replace a $1500 tranny, than buy a used/reworked $3000+ engine.
Again you are assuming the engine will be the first thing to go if you don't use synthetic. That may or may not be true. And a used accord engine should be well < $1000.

But I don't think I'd spend $1,500 fixing a $3,000 car in the example I gave. I'd part it out/junk it and move on.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,May 25 2005, 02:31 PM
I'm still unsure how this is an "experiment"?

Do you mean to tell me that the honda engineers who built the car don't know what they're talking about?
I trust the engineers and follow their recommendations.

But you would need to experiment if you want to gauge the validity of their recommendations.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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Original poster's car is MY05 with 5k miles, he likes to change his factory filled oil with Mobil1, which is not what Honda recommended. If anything went wrong, Honda may deny warranty for using non-recommended oil for the first 10k miles, who will pay for the repair ? If he uses conventional oil and his engine brake down, who will pay for the repair ?

Why take chance with warranty coverage from using non-recommended oil for the first 10k miles ?

My other car E430 had synthetic oil in the crankcase from day 1, and I kept using synthetic oil every oil change. I just use the recommended oil to make sure I will not be denied warranty services if I ever need it.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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I hear that the '04 and '05's are somewhat different regarding oil burning, but this was issued for the older models: (click on it twice to get to the largest and most readable copy):



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Old May 25, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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there at the bottom. straight from honda.

"do not use synthetic oil in the S2000 for the first 7500 miles"
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Old May 26, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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[QUOTE=Wisconsin S2k,May 25 2005, 12:56 PM] This is a well known fact by those with the technical knowledge of the workings of the engine, and even for those who've read enough on these forums.

If you want your proof, as I said, there was a TSB for the previous gen prelude, that stated, do not use synthetic before 7500-10k due to the fact that it can cause improper breakin/wear on the FRM cylinder walls.

so this doesn't mean that you'll blow up your engine.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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Darn! Should have read the posts before posting! LOL!

Ok, ok...you got me. But it is NOT in the manual.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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So what is so special about the Honda cylinder walls as opposed to Porsche, Corevtte, MINI, or many other cars that come with synthetic from the factory?
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