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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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stock camber is -1.3 for the rear and -.3 for the front on the AP2's. The AP1's are a bit more but not much I think. UK is -2.0 for the rear and -1.0 for the front with increased caster and a slight toe change in the rear.

I have run the UK spec since new and have had pretty even tire wear in the rear not an issue in the front. Time for new rear tires already 14k miles.

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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by INTJ,Feb 6 2008, 03:13 PM
So, what is the consensus on the brit settings on the ap2? I have read that is goes to oversteer slightly earlier than stock us >04, but that it is easier to catch.
I have found that with these settings the rear is more planted than with stock specs. I can certainly get the rear to step out anytime I choose too but it is more planted. The steering is a bit more weighted which I find it easier to be smooth through corners and as for more oversteer. I think not, if anything, at slow speed turns and depending on how you enter the turn it understeers a bit more hard to explain. Remember the UK specs are considered to be a safer spec.

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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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I'm running OEM S02's and UK specs on my MY00 AP1, and my rear tire wear is even across the tread. It takes 3,000 to 5,000 to reach the point where the back tires no longer work well in the rain. Before FI I was getting 5,000 to 7,000 miles to a set of rear S02's.

It was my understanding that the UK specs were only applicable to early AP1's.

Here's a copy of the original Honda Intranet Bulletin. Notice that it says, "1999-2001 MY Only."



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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RED MX5,Feb 6 2008, 04:07 PM
It was my understanding that the UK specs were only applicable to early AP1's.
True they are applicable to the AP1's but many AP2 owners are using this alignment spec as well with positive results.

I thought the specs for the AP1 in the rear was -1.5 don't know why I had that in my head shop manual says as you stated.

When I get new rears I may try a different alignment setting maybe back off from the UK specs and see what it feels like maybe -.6 in front and -1.6 in the rear or -.75 and -1.75 who knows.

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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Swiftoy,Feb 6 2008, 10:59 PM
True they are applicable to the AP1's but many AP2 owners are using this alignment spec as well with positive results.

I thought the specs for the AP1 in the rear was -1.5 don't know why I had that in my head shop manual says as you stated.

When I get new rears I may try a different alignment setting maybe back off from the UK specs and see what it feels like maybe -.6 in front and -1.6 in the rear or -.75 and -1.75 who knows.

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If you're autocrossing or tracking the car you might want to consider getting a pyrometer. It'll help you optomize both tire pressure and alignment.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 02:36 AM
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I just wondering RED MX5 are you running your s2000 "stock" with no lowering and "stock" wheels?

I am just curious as I have a lot of inner wear, and my S2000 is lowered and i think i have 225/40-18 on my back tires. I am not shure if that would make it wear more? Just trying to find a way to get normal wear
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 04:30 AM
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dang... no wonder i'm rubbing.

i thought it was -2.5 since that's what the dude was telling me off of his camber adjusting machine. I knew they were wrong.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kenssb,Feb 7 2008, 06:36 AM
I just wondering RED MX5 are you running your s2000 "stock" with no lowering and "stock" wheels?

I am just curious as I have a lot of inner wear, and my S2000 is lowered and i think i have 225/40-18 on my back tires. I am not shure if that would make it wear more? Just trying to find a way to get normal wear
LOL, my back tires wear out quickly becaue I slide the car around a lot and light the tires often. They'd probably last twice as long if I didn't give them such a hard time.

I am running OEM wheels and tires, am dropped an inch, and running UK alignment. I'm not at all sure how 18" wheels would affect the equation, but if you don't corner pretty hard, pretty often, it's normal fo the tires to wear quicker on the inside than the outside. As long as the car is aligned properly, the two biggest factors contributing to tire wear are the way the car is driven, and the tire compound. I know that probably doesn't help much, but that's all I've got.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RED MX5,Feb 7 2008, 03:50 PM
LOL, my back tires wear out quickly becaue I slide the car around a lot and light the tires often. They'd probably last twice as long if I didn't give them such a hard time.

I am running OEM wheels and tires, am dropped an inch, and running UK alignment. I'm not at all sure how 18" wheels would affect the equation, but if you don't corner pretty hard, pretty often, it's normal fo the tires to wear quicker on the inside than the outside. As long as the car is aligned properly, the two biggest factors contributing to tire wear are the way the car is driven, and the tire compound. I know that probably doesn't help much, but that's all I've got.
All my other cars that I have usually wear on the outside, so this is a first (wearing inside that is). But thanx! I will try to get some new tires and try the UK aligment. Just waiting for the snow and salt to go away
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kenssb,Feb 8 2008, 03:11 AM
All my other cars that I have usually wear on the outside, so this is a first (wearing inside that is). But thanx! I will try to get some new tires and try the UK aligment. Just waiting for the snow and salt to go away
Cars that allow the outside tire to assume positive camber during hard cornering wear the outside of the tire out first if you do a lot of hard cornering. In such cases, more negative camber can improve grip and even out the wear. Of course alignment problems can also cause tire wear that is uneven across the tread. With a car like the S2000 it's really normal for the inside of the back tires to wear faster than the inside. Most cars should have even tire wear across the tread.
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