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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Incubus,Feb 3 2009, 06:03 PM
Half of a finger isn't that much. My 2005 S2000 had the same issue. The only reason I noticed is because so many others were pointing it out about their cars.
Half a finger on an already low car is noticeable. I can even tell when I'm driving the car, that the driver side is sitting higher.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SiDriver,Feb 3 2009, 11:33 AM
When you say the same exact problem... do you mean the driver side was a bit higher than the passenger side? And did you ever get this problem "corrected"? If so, how? Lol, this issue is killing me.
Like you said, the left side sits higher than the right side. I've always thought it's because the CR was designed for LHD cars, and hence the small difference in height was to compensate for the difference in weight distribution due to the driver's weight.

It bugs me since mine is a RHD, and I keep thinking that's a terrible idea. However, I don't notice the differnce while driving ... so I just completely forgot about it haha
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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*** In case this was missed...

Ok, help me to understand something as I'm confused. And correct me if I'm wrong as I'm not trying to misinterpret anyone.

Wiggum -
Do you mean that even though it sits uneven now... if I were to unbolt the coilovers and the bars, attempt another preload of the coils using jackstands to push up on control arms, tighten up the coils and then the bars, then put the car back down... that there is a chance the car will sit even this time?

Rodney -
Do you mean that the fact that it sits uneven now, it won't have a chance of sitting even (without an adjustable endlink), even after going through the song and dance of what I described up above in Wiggum's blurb of another preload attempt?


What I'm getting at is, would going through steps #1-10 (that I wrote a few posts up) have a chance of correcting the problem? Or if I'm interpreting Rodney right, does this mean the frame could be hosed?

Thanks. I never knew installing suspension components could be such a headache lol.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tan0116,Feb 3 2009, 11:25 AM
It is pretty common for cars to be uneven from passenger to driver side at static conditions. I have not looked at a CR closely but I would guess that it is set up to be uneven empty. Measuring with fingers is accurate and the difference of half a finger could be the level of the ground.
I just called up and checked with Jeff (Hardtopguy) and he confirmed that the left and right springs have the SAME part numbers. So then, is it safe to conclude that the height difference wasn't the intention of Honda? So then, is this a preload issue?
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Ks320,Feb 4 2009, 06:00 AM
Like you said, the left side sits higher than the right side. I've always thought it's because the CR was designed for LHD cars, and hence the small difference in height was to compensate for the difference in weight distribution due to the driver's weight.

It bugs me since mine is a RHD, and I keep thinking that's a terrible idea. However, I don't notice the differnce while driving ... so I just completely forgot about it haha
As I just mentioned in my previous post a minute ago... I just checked with Jeff and the left and right respective springs have the same part numbers. So then, can the conclusion be reached that this is a preload issue?
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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SiDriver,

i got your PM. yes, mine was slightly off after my original install. i did it myself in my garage on jack stands. i preloaded the suspension by jacking up the control arms and tightening the suspension to spec. the rear was even but the front was off 3/8" side to side.

i rode around for a couple of weeks to let things settle but the front was still off by 3/8". i fixed it by rolling the car on level ground (garage floor), loosening the front shock bolts and nuts (upper and lower), then putting my body weight on the front shock towers (not all of my weight, just pushing down with my arms as much as i could, with a bouncing motion which isn't much due the CR stiffness) then rolling the car fore and aft a couple of inches both ways. then i re-tightened the nuts and bolts to spec while the car just sat on the floor.

this fixed my issue, my front is within 1/16" difference side to side.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RadioZero,Feb 10 2009, 06:43 PM
SiDriver,

i got your PM. yes, mine was slightly off after my original install. i did it myself in my garage on jack stands. i preloaded the suspension by jacking up the control arms and tightening the suspension to spec. the rear was even but the front was off 3/8" side to side.

i rode around for a couple of weeks to let things settle but the front was still off by 3/8". i fixed it by rolling the car on level ground (garage floor), loosening the front shock bolts and nuts (upper and lower), then putting my body weight on the front shock towers (not all of my weight, just pushing down with my arms as much as i could, with a bouncing motion which isn't much due the CR stiffness) then rolling the car fore and aft a couple of inches both ways. then i re-tightened the nuts and bolts to spec while the car just sat on the floor.

this fixed my issue, my front is within 1/16" difference side to side.
RadioZero, thanks for your input.

I'm not sure I followed you there. Sorry for the ignorance. Regarding the second part... how did you unbolt top and bottom bolts with car on the ground and wheels on the car? Thanks.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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just loosen the bolts and nuts, do not remove. then rock the car with your weight including the fore and aft movement. tighten the nuts, bolts back to spec and you're done.

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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RadioZero,Feb 10 2009, 08:37 PM
just loosen the bolts and nuts, do not remove. then rock the car with your weight including the fore and aft movement. tighten the nuts, bolts back to spec and you're done.
Thanks... will try that and let you know.

Btw, you didn't unbolt any of the endlinks for your sway bars? It is my understanding from Rodney that the bar could bind due to the fixed endlinks if both sides aren't exactly equal in height.
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SiDriver,Feb 10 2009, 10:46 PM
Thanks... will try that and let you know.

Btw, you didn't unbolt any of the endlinks for your sway bars? It is my understanding from Rodney that the bar could bind due to the fixed endlinks if both sides aren't exactly equal in height.
i didn't have to unbolt the sway bar end links. i just made sure they weren't binding and both sides looked fairly even.
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