All my cars have traction control, including the S2k.

It is wired into the brain of the loose nut behind the steering wheel.

It is the same one I used when driving F1s, as it has to be with F1 cars today, where traction control is not permitted.

 

But then your car is heavier and you probably wont need it.

 

Interesting. That's a report from 1995, so I went looking for more recent data and found this PDF from the NHTSA from 2009.
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811182.PDF
The three main takeaways:
1) "ABS has close to a zero net effect on fatal crash involvements." But the makeup of those fatal crashes changed. Running off the road went up 9%. But hitting pedestrians went down 13% and hitting other cars on wet roads went down 12%.

2) "ABS is quite effective in nonfatal crashes." Crashes overall are down 6% in cars and 8% in trucks.

3) "The combination of electronic stability control (ESC) and ABS will prevent a large proportion of fatal and nonfatal crashes."

Regarding your initial post - yes, the human race survived driving for several decades without ABS, ESC, airbags, crumple zones, etc. Doesn't mean it's not good to have them now, as your post seems to claim. (Maybe I'm misinterpreting your point, though?) The human race also survived for many cennturies with smallpox, polio, no hurricane tracking, no dental hygene, etc...

 

LOOOOOOOOL.

 

STOP! You CANNOT tell people to do the logical thing. As we get more and more stupid drivers on the roads today, we MUST make our cars and our roads safer. We MUST legislate to protect idiots from themselves and from us. We MUST build technology for SC (Stupid Control).

 

We have that - Survival of the fittest, but the courts keep making laws to protect people from it.

 

In the northern part of my province, we have what is called the "Highway of Death". It sees some of the most horrific and frequent crashes of any highway in Alberta. People speed excessively, pass on the solid line, tail gate and generally drive like idiots just to save 2 minutes. The province just opened up a new section that was renovated to make it "safer". Now, people have a better road in which they can drive even faster when they do dumbass things. Crashes are on the rise again. It should really be called the "Highway of Stupid".
So your RWD car has peaky HP and the rear end can step out. You DON'T need electronic devices to stop you from using all of that power. The S2000 is NOT what you would call a powerful car. It just seems to always attract weak drivers who can and usually do overdrive whatever car they have. Try slowing the f**k down when the conditions dictate or when you can't see beyond your reaction ability. Is it really that tough? It's like saying, "I demand a safer car because I'm an unsafe and stupid driver".

 

Wait, what?

 

Are you gonna be ok without VSA.....sure, you just need to drive a bit more carefully and you MUST know your limits...

BUT, not many of us have access to track where we can explore our cars and not every situation on the road is predictable, so VSA WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE or maybe just from an accident....

I know how good VSA and similar traction systems are, and thats why I bought 2006 S2000 w/ VSA. Pretty complicated system that makes sure your car goes where you tell it to go.

 

Honestly, TCS would have saved me a couple times already on the street.. I wish my S2k had it..

First time was the second day I drove my s2k. First of all I had no idea these cars were so tail happy..in a matter of fact I thought the opposite because of super light car, perfect weight distribution, everyone says they handle like go-karts, blah blah blah.
Anyway, I decited to get on it on a nice straight and was not careful with the throttle what's so ever. In 2nd I started switching lanes, vtec kicked in and just that little extra power at 6k rpm, my angle of switching lanes, and my worn ass tires was enough to make the the rear totally ice out. I overcorrected, snap oversteer and ended up spinning over a median blowing a tire and bending a rim.. If I had TCS I'm pretty sure that would have saved me. Tires with tread would have helpped too..
The next week I got some Dunlop Star Specs and put a lot of track time in the last few months.

Second time I was hitting up some curves on a road that I was totally familiar with so I was really pushing the s2k's limits. Problem was that at the bottom of the hill there was a sprinkler that was gushing water flowing across the street right on the last turn. Didn't see it till I was already taking the turn way to fast for wet conditions and ended up in a ditch with something bent in the rear that I haven't fixed yet.. (driver side rear wheel has some positive camber..lol. You can really see it in the pic below..)



Cliffs notes:
Spun out over a median (unfamiliar with s2k, bald rear tires and 2nd day driving it)
Ended up in a ditch (wet road)
TCS is a life saver...use it..wish I had it..
but turn it off on the track