spirited driving is a few notches below track driving

 

Do the studies take twisted canyon roads into consideration or is it about driving on public roads in general. If it is the latter, then it does not apply.

 

More like Little League v. AAA ball (with wheel to wheel being the Big Leagues).

 

Passing in a way that scares other motorists in any way is inconsiderate and rude even if it's not dangerous. Pass the same way you would if a cop was following you. Go faster later, when nobody else is around.

 

I can't speak for the other guy, but that's not the way I use the term. On an autocross course I have no problem pushing the car to and beyond its limits (or my own limits, which ever comes first ). On the track I like to work up to the limit, but I try really hard to avoid exceeding it. On a twisty road I leave a much larger margin for error, because you have to expect the unexpected and allow for it. I can't say that I stop at 5/10ths. or 8/10ths. because it varies depending on the conditions, but if I'm cornering hard enough to feel it then I call it "spirited." Race track speeds on the street are a wreck waiting to happen, and I think more of the Little League.

Wouldn't the equivalent of AAA ball be F1?

 

The OP never mentioned anything about driving above the speed limit. He did not necessarily even imply it. You distorted his original statement. That is called a "straw man" argument.

Your remark comparing his query to The Fast and the Furious is a "slippery slope" argument at best.

The reported statistics include all public roads. They do not discriminate on the basis of the number of curves or the amount of cliffs in proximity.

Carelessness, complacency, and poor decision making cause accidents. The original poster was not asking if he could drift his S2K around the Dragon while engaging his NOS and changing radio stations.

In response to the original poster, be polite and reasonable. Do not overestimate your abilities or the car's. Treat other drivers the same way that you would prefer to be treated.

 

[QUOTE=RED MX5,Apr 24 2007, 12:11 AM]Wouldn't the equivalent of AAA ball be F1?

 

Its good to see we have a logician on the site. You know why? Because you are horrible at it, regardless if you are a qualified one or not. I never said anything about driving ABOVE the speed limit either. Neither did I distort his statement. In fact it is you who is disoriented. You are out of touch with reality my firend.

 

Whoa cowboy!!! I"ve worked in a trauma ER for 30 years and have yet to see hot coffee or second hand smoke create the mess a mortor vec. crash can. I drive a little spiritedly myself occasionally: I think he's just trying to tell you to be sure you don't kill or mame anyone besides yourself in the process.

 

In the end that's all that matters. I've personally believed that I can endanger my life all day long, as long as it is solely my life. When I have a passenger in the car I don't drive nearly as fast as do by myself.

We have fun cars, and we should have fun with them. Fun in a fun car means different things to different people, so instead of defining what "fun is" it should all boil down to having fun without taxing others.