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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 03:30 PM
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I use e-brake on my auto, but not on my manual. weird habit of mine lol.
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:50 AM
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I'm failing to see the logic behind not putting car in gear, whenever its parked, regardless of terrain.

Does it save wear? No.

Is there a convenience penalty? No.

Does it take more time? No.

What reason would there be to not always put car in gear when parked?
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
I'm failing to see the logic behind not putting car in gear, whenever its parked, regardless of terrain.

Does it save wear? No.

Is there a convenience penalty? No.

Does it take more time? No.

What reason would there be to not always put car in gear when parked?
On level terrain I see no penalty for not doing so either.
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 10:57 AM
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Might as well take an extra 20 seconds to put on wheel chokes lol. Can't be too cautious right?

I'm on flat ground 99% of the time. The car isn't going to roll away. The cable isn't going to snap either. I could put it in gear but I've already developed my habit. For me to change now means there will be times I'll forget to pull into neutral and well, you know what happens next.
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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This side debate about leaving it in-gear versus out-of-gear...





Btw, it's a good movie too!
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 05:17 PM
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This logic escapes me. If your habit is to not park in gear, that means you need an exception protocol for those times that require it (hills, etc). Exception protocols are where the problems of forgetting come from.

The habit you want to develop is the one you can use without exception. Parking in gear can be used all the time.

It makes no sense to me to have multiple ways of doing something, when one, consistent method can be used, especially if that method comes with virtually no downsides, and provides a safety redundancy.

I find it interesting that the response to the question what is the downside of always parking in gear is to compare the act of moving a lever 2 inches (which can be done in parallel to other parking tasks) to exiting the vehicle, removing a chock from the trunk, placing yourself in danger crouching down hidden next to your car, exposing yourself to weather and the contaminents of the ground, to place the chock behind a wheel. All this to provide a unidirectional safety measure, wheras placing in gear provides bidirectional protection. Not seeing how putting in gear is at all awkward or encumbering.
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 06:24 PM
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I find it interesting you can't let it go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk

And that's the last of my derailment.
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
This logic escapes me. If your habit is to not park in gear, that means you need an exception protocol for those times that require it (hills, etc). Exception protocols are where the problems of forgetting come from.
I guess you skipped over the part where I said I'm on a flat ground 99% of the time. There are no exception protocol for me. In my case, it doesn't help to put it in gear, nor does it hurt to leave it in neutral. Not trying to convince anyone to do it my way. Just giving a reason why I don't do it......
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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 02:23 PM
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Um, what about that other 1%? That is the exception I'm talking about.
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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
Um, what about that other 1%? That is the exception I'm talking about.
I only say 99% because I can never be 100% sure that I won't ever be parked on a hill. Besides, I'm not going to change the way I do things for something that may only occur once in my life. I'm sure you park your car with the steering turned towards the curb every single time right, even on flat roads?


So uh... valet parking.
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