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Old Mar 31, 2003 | 06:12 PM
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Okay, maybe I'm an idiot. I saw the vin number explained. But I don't understand "check digit." What does this mean?

What is a MY2000 vs. a S2000? Are there two different versions of the S2000? I'm confused. I see 41, or 43 or 4X...different ones...but what are these "digits" They are right before the "3" for 2003 model year.

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Old Mar 31, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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The check digit is meaningless. "MY2000" is model year 2000. I think '00, '01, etc works just as well. The 41, 43, 4X thing.......not sure what you're talking about.
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Old Mar 31, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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Have a look in the FAQ (frequently asked questions) section of the library tab. An explanation of the VIN is contained within.
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Old Mar 31, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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For example, the VIN number for an individual's car on the board is: JHMAP114G1T000288- This breaks down to the following:

J HM Japan/Honda (WMI)
AP1 S2000/F20C1
1 2-dr Convertible 6-speed manual
4 Base Model
G (check digit)
Y 2000 (year) (1= 2001)
T Tochigi (plant)
000288 sequential number (the build number)

I pasted above the definition from the library. But I do not know what it means "check digit" I should check the digit...but what does that digit/number mean??? The below listed are VIN numbers without the last 4 numbers. As you can see my inquiry is as to the middle after the "11" In the first set it is "41" in the second set it is "43" In the last set it is "4X" According to the definition this is the "check digit" what is that? The "3" that comes after this is model year, i.e. 2003.


JHMAP11413T00
JHMAP11433T00
JHMAP114X3T00
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 04:00 AM
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Sure, now I understand your question...

I believe the check digit is a way for Honda to confirm that the total VIN is valid. It is meaningless in terms of information about the car, esq.

In Computer Science, we have many forms of "error correcting" or "error detecting" codes. The check digit in our VINs is, I believe, a form of error detection.

Honda has an "algorithm" (a series of steps) where they take each of the alphanumeric characters in the VIN and assign them a numeric value. The check digit is calculated based on an arithmetic function of the other values.

I hope that helps you. Again, there is no information about your car to be found in the check digit; it is only present to allow a given VIN to be checked for correctness.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 04:09 AM
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How does the VIN code for different markets: Europe; England; Asia and Australia; North America?

The last four digits code for the serial number for that market. For example, my #52 is not the 52nd MY01 built. It is the 52nd 01 built for the North American market.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 04:19 AM
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Hi Barry,

I know there's a different leading digit in the serial number in the VIN for some of the foreign models. In Canada, the serial numbers have an "8" as leading digit, whereas the US has "0".

Yours might be the 52nd built, Barry. I don't know how Honda does this. They might just tack on the leading digit depending on the destination and the engine. However, that said, we know there's a correspondence between the engine number and the VIN, so maybe you're right.

According to the shop manual, engine numbers are F20C1 - 1000001 for U.S. models, and F20C1 - 1100001 for Canada.

I think for some of the other countries, they will not have "AP1" in their VIN. This probably varies for different engine models, and I suspect some of the countries get "AP2" to match the F20C2 engine.

Anyway, that's all I know. Best wishes!
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 08:54 AM
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It's just VIN. Not "VIN number." Next you'll explain that your PIN number doesn't work at the ATM machine so your estimated ETA will be later than expected...

Sorry, it's a thing I've noticed. I had a gym teacher in grade school who used to tell us to pair off in threes and line up in a circle. I've been a little off since.

Anyhow the VIN discussion has been informative, thanks.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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You mean that it is not a "Vehicle Identification Number" Number?

(I've had to lineup in a circle also
but I'm not a:Less fortunate S2000 owner,
I am a Sensitive Male,
I do have Business Ethics
I do work for Skillfull Dealers
I don't have Marital Bliss
and I don't work for KIA Motorsports)
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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Department of Redundancy Department
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