Warming the S2000 Up
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Originally Posted by s2000nubi,Nov 30 2005, 04:00 PM
----"It's the pistons, rods and rings that warm up the oil, NOT the other way around."----
xviper= how do the rods, piston, rings warms up the oil?
--the oil warms up because it absorb the heat of combustion. Granted rods/pistons creates friction but not nearly as much heat as combustion. Looks who don't know what they're talking about ...
xviper= how do the rods, piston, rings warms up the oil?
--the oil warms up because it absorb the heat of combustion. Granted rods/pistons creates friction but not nearly as much heat as combustion. Looks who don't know what they're talking about ...
BTW, some cars use engine oil to cool the pistons down. Think before you post.
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I want to thank everyone for so many great thoughts on the subject.
I'm figuring the idea of starting the engine, putting on the seatbelt, tuning in some music and getting settled will be enough time and then I'll get rolling.
Clearly the first few shifts are going to be notchy sounding and so I'll take it easy until the tranny warms up.
Otherwise, I smell the popcorn and will sit to the side of this theater and watch the sparks fly on who's stupid or whatever?
I'm figuring the idea of starting the engine, putting on the seatbelt, tuning in some music and getting settled will be enough time and then I'll get rolling.
Clearly the first few shifts are going to be notchy sounding and so I'll take it easy until the tranny warms up.
Otherwise, I smell the popcorn and will sit to the side of this theater and watch the sparks fly on who's stupid or whatever?
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Originally Posted by xviper,Nov 30 2005, 03:41 PM
* I am not surprised. You have very little knowledge of how most things automotive work. We can see this in your many GOOFY posts and questions to date.
** "Warm" is a relative term when it comes to oil. Until you get down into the MINUS 20 degrees C range, oil will have sufficient viscosity and flow to lubricate just fine.
*** You have just got to be kidding! The pistons, rods and rings of an engine is right next to combustion temperatures of around 2000 degrees. It's the pistons, rods and rings that warm up the oil, NOT the other way around.
**** MY GAWD! This just gets better and better every time you post something.
***** Not only do you have next to ZERO knowledge of anything automotive, you have just shown you have about the same knowledge of physics. Oh, BTW, the topic of oil is not simply physics related. It's has to do with hydrodynamics, thermodynamics and Tribology.
Please do yourself a favour and do just a tiny little bit of research into automotive phenomenon before posting stuff. STOP listening to all those OLD WIVES! You are doing a great job of EMBARASSING yourself repeatedly.
** "Warm" is a relative term when it comes to oil. Until you get down into the MINUS 20 degrees C range, oil will have sufficient viscosity and flow to lubricate just fine.
*** You have just got to be kidding! The pistons, rods and rings of an engine is right next to combustion temperatures of around 2000 degrees. It's the pistons, rods and rings that warm up the oil, NOT the other way around.
**** MY GAWD! This just gets better and better every time you post something.
***** Not only do you have next to ZERO knowledge of anything automotive, you have just shown you have about the same knowledge of physics. Oh, BTW, the topic of oil is not simply physics related. It's has to do with hydrodynamics, thermodynamics and Tribology.
Please do yourself a favour and do just a tiny little bit of research into automotive phenomenon before posting stuff. STOP listening to all those OLD WIVES! You are doing a great job of EMBARASSING yourself repeatedly.
HAHAHHAHA I was about to say the same thing.. He even has the "nub" in his screen name. Real funny viper 
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Originally Posted by s2000nubi,Nov 30 2005, 01:58 PM
I disagree with all the above statements. I usually wait until the temp meter reaches the 2nd bars before moving (below 4k rmp until 3rd bar is reached)...Usually 1:30 min after starting....1)engine oil needs to be warm to be effectively protects engine...(hence waiting to 2nd bar on temp). Also warm oil also warms up the piston/rods/rings which are crucial parts of the engine. Driving the first 5 min with cool engine oil (thick) will do damage to your car in the long run. This is simple physic, just like you're about to exercise, you need to warm up...There's the easy way and the right way to do it...it's up to you to decide.
Keep on trolling.
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I have a couple of comments.
First X-viper I very much value your oppinions, but the one on "don't warm up your car it wasts gas". Ummm.....Do you konw how much gas a idling 4 cylinder burns. Well I don't. But I did drive my honda accord, so 2.3 liter accross the country and didn't want to freeze one night when I slept in it so I left it running for 9 hours all night. When I woke up I couldn't even tell the gas gauge had moved.
Now I don't know what a S2000 burns when idleing, but from a report from FORD the 5.8L V8 in a Econoline Van will burn 1 gallon about every 180 minutes when idling.
Between my accord and that article I think its saft to say that,
IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT LETTING YOUR CAR IDLE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SAVE GAS...................What a joke!!!!
Just thought I would bring some more facts to the convo!
Later guys
J. R.
First X-viper I very much value your oppinions, but the one on "don't warm up your car it wasts gas". Ummm.....Do you konw how much gas a idling 4 cylinder burns. Well I don't. But I did drive my honda accord, so 2.3 liter accross the country and didn't want to freeze one night when I slept in it so I left it running for 9 hours all night. When I woke up I couldn't even tell the gas gauge had moved.
Now I don't know what a S2000 burns when idleing, but from a report from FORD the 5.8L V8 in a Econoline Van will burn 1 gallon about every 180 minutes when idling.
Between my accord and that article I think its saft to say that,
IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT LETTING YOUR CAR IDLE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SAVE GAS...................What a joke!!!!
Just thought I would bring some more facts to the convo!
Later guys
J. R.
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[QUOTE=flexer,Nov 30 2005, 11:57 PM] I have a couple of comments.
First X-viper I very much value your oppinions, but the one on "don't warm up your car it wasts gas". Ummm.....Do you konw how much gas a idling 4 cylinder burns.
First X-viper I very much value your oppinions, but the one on "don't warm up your car it wasts gas". Ummm.....Do you konw how much gas a idling 4 cylinder burns.
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[QUOTE=flexer,Nov 30 2005, 09:57 PM] I have a couple of comments.
But I did drive my honda accord, so 2.3 liter accross the country and didn't want to freeze one night when I slept in it so I left it running for 9 hours all night.
But I did drive my honda accord, so 2.3 liter accross the country and didn't want to freeze one night when I slept in it so I left it running for 9 hours all night.
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Originally Posted by s2000nubi,Nov 30 2005, 10:58 AM
I disagree with all the above statements. I usually wait until the temp meter reaches the 2nd bars before moving (below 4k rmp until 3rd bar is reached)...Usually 1:30 min after starting....1)engine oil needs to be warm to be effectively protects engine...(hence waiting to 2nd bar on temp). Also warm oil also warms up the piston/rods/rings which are crucial parts of the engine. Driving the first 5 min with cool engine oil (thick) will do damage to your car in the long run. This is simple physic, just like you're about to exercise, you need to warm up...There's the easy way and the right way to do it...it's up to you to decide.
Cars do need warmup, but it happens pretty fast, a minute or 2 max.