me and my friends went to the canyon tonight, it was FUN!!!!!! i found out my car has some understeer, i was racing my friends speed3 and 350z. i had a hard time keeping up with them, maybe cuz i dont have TCS and VSA?? but anyways, r there anyways to improve my handling through corners?? what should i get?? ( all my tires are very new and they're Z rated... ) so i dunno why i keep havin understeer. Or maybe i tuned my front camber settings to ( save tires mode ) when i was doing alignment???

 

you should get better driving skills...if driven "well" the S will be neutral to loose...check tire pressure and alignment...

 

That is strange. Understeer is not the first thing that comes to mind with my S.

Like Sparrow said, check tire pressures. It can make a difference.

Understeer, Push, Tight all mean the car does not want to turn in the direction of the front wheels and tire pressure can instantly change this in a performance car. I'm actually surprised the S does not come with TPMS to make Honda's Lawyers happy.

 

I agree with 2 major statments already made and I am going to add a third one to the mix and this is just a personnal one and you can take it anyway you want too.

1) Anytime you get ready to run hard always check your tires.
a. Tire preasure
b. Overall tire condition

2) Learn how to really drive your car. Instead of investing in things that will make your car better, invest in making yourself better. Spend the money on some really great driving lessons. You have some very high end driving shools and some awsome tracks out there to learn on. Based on what I just read, I would bet you right here and now that if we were both put on a road course with both cars being equal I would consistantly win. I will also add that I am 54 years old. To that I was taught how to drive fast and have raced in SCCA and IMSA sactioned events.

3) This is only my opinion. Running the canyons can be fun and in my younger days I did it. 30 years ago I stopped because I lost one of my best friends while he was racing up there. Keep it on the track if you plan on racing not on the streets. Again just my opinion.

 

Brand new tires are 'greasy' and require time to break in.

 

I agree with the above posts regarding the possible reasons your S2000 is pushing. My '06 pushed from the factory........tire pressure and an alignment fixed that issue, on the track it is now very neutral.

However, stay out of the canyons if you are going to be pushing the limits of your driving skill. I too drove through the canyons and have seen folks suffer the consequences of their actions. Keep it on the track.

Mike

 

I agree that canyon runs are fun!

understeer:

1. you're braking while turning in after a hard straight

2. you're not keeping consistant speed through the corners

3. you're turning after braking then throttling

4. you're overloading your fronts.


that's what I have. you should hit the throttle at apex and you'll have a bit of controlled oversteer instead of hitting the throttle before the apex, which could create understeer if you brake before you accelerate again.

I think if you ease into the entry and keep consistant speed throughout the curves until you hit the apex and floor it all the way through, keeping your lines straight (in curves) it could be that much more fun with a slight oversteer. this worked for me at the dragon and the z's aren't too bad on the canyons with the right driver. Good low end torque on those cars.

 

as plokivos said you are overspeeding into the corner and not braking enough so you're getting oversteer. the Z is a great car but is heavier than the s and not as nimble as the S so you shouldnt have a hard time keeping up with it.

 

Next question is what tires are you running, in what sizes, and what tire pressures?

 

im running on Dunlop tires o the front, Toyo tires on the rear, they're Z rated, my tires pressures are around 38+ PSI... is that too much??