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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Ferris,Mar 19 2006, 02:27 PM
I would also guess that they are making quite a bit more power than the S and can afford the extra rotational mass. Whereas with 140-160 torque we need to be a bit more choosy.
A pure racecar is all about getting the best performance possible. I guarantee they don't run 17" plus because they look good. They do it for a reason, it provides faster lap times. Be it because they NEED them to clear the large brakes or because they exhibit less tire squirm I am not sure but they do it none-the-less.

I will be replacing the stock wheels on my AP1 with 17" Enkei RPF1's and I will put similar tires (grip/width/OD) on them and do an actual comparison on a track to get some reall data. I am actually curious myself.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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Somebody has probably already covered this, but if you up-size your rims, you need to down-size your tire sidewalls to keep the tire diameter about as it was. If you go larger, you will hurt acceleration.

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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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Surprised no one has brought the 'gears' comparison up.

Going to 16's [keeping proportional total wheel/tire diameter aka less than 17's total diameter] is about at 4.44's.

Similar comparison going to 15's would be like 4.77's.

As mentioned, you have to be careful with tire selections to keep handling consistent and from having too high of a sidewall.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverKnight,Mar 19 2006, 04:38 PM
thanks! I know brand new from AJ and he helped deliver them what rims you got?
Volk C-28 N,Mercury Silver.!!!
Not as nice as your's,but I don't have your money;life is a bitch.!!!
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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The advan rgIIs come in 17 inch too right??
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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[QUOTE=Emil St-Hilaire,Mar 19 2006, 08:00 PM] Volk C-28 N,Mercury Silver.!!!
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverKnight,Mar 19 2006, 11:44 PM
still the volk look good on s2k

Yeh and they do come in 17s also. The 18s just make the S look sooooooooooooooooo good!
Post some pics,when you can.!!!
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Project22a,Mar 18 2006, 02:08 PM
For every 1lb you add in weight to your wheels, you effectively add 8lbs in unsprung/static weight. For example, if 1lb was added to each of the four corners of your car, it's like adding an extra 32lbs. And this isn't even putting into account rotational mass yet (when upgrading to larger diameter wheels), where the weight effect rises exponentially.

Probably more than you guys wanted to know, but it's never a bad to get a quick physics refresher.
I was no physics major but u are saying that the 7 lbs. per wheel I took off the Z with the Nismo wheels gave me 224 lbs. in effective weight savings? I'm sorry but this can't be right if I interpret u correctly. I think one would notiuce a reduction of 224lbs big time in the seat o pants meter which I didn't. If u could save that much with just wheels everyone would be running on 13" wheels and the S2K would be effectively 2000lb cars. SG
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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RobZ Posted on Mar 19 2006, 10:41 PM

I will be replacing the stock wheels on my AP1 with 17" Enkei RPF1's and I will put similar tires (grip/width/OD) on them and do an actual comparison on a track to get some reall data. I am actually curious myself.
Cool
Keep us up to date on that!
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Project22a,Mar 18 2006, 05:08 PM
For every 1lb you add in weight to your wheels, you effectively add 8lbs in unsprung/static weight. For example, if 1lb was added to each of the four corners of your car, it's like adding an extra 32lbs. And this isn't even putting into account rotational mass yet (when upgrading to larger diameter wheels), where the weight effect rises exponentially.

Probably more than you guys wanted to know, but it's never a bad to get a quick physics refresher.
Sounds like funny math to me. If you add one pound to your wheel, you add one pound of unsprung weight to that particular corner. Where is this 8X multiplier coming from? A broken calculator?

You want physics? How about kinetic dynamics?

For Mass Moment of Inertia:

M = 2*pi*R*ro*A

where

M = mass
R = mean radius
ro = density
A = effective cross sectional area
pi = 3.1415926535858 (from memory)

I (Mass Moment of Inertia) = MR^2


For Angular Acceleration:

A = M/I

where

M = moment
I = mass moment of inertia


Take two objects being subjected to the same moment (torque). If one has double the mass moment of inertia, it will accelerate at exactly half the rate of the other.

Inertia bad.
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