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Old 10-02-2003, 11:32 AM
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I am going to florida to get a S2000 and I was wondering what kind of maintance it requires I talked to a dealership and they said something about getting the valves and lifters maintanced regularly just wondering what you guys had to say about this thanks and I really appreciate it
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Generally speaking this car requires no more maintenance than any other car. That's one of the nice things about it. Certainly it couldn't hurt to have the valves checked and adjusted somewhat regularly but I've only done it once on my car and I have 80k miles on it.
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Maintenance Schedule for Extreme Conditions.

This schedule is to be followed if you drive in one or more of these conditions most of the time:
Trips of less than 5 miles (less than 10 in freezing weather)
Extremely hot weather (over 90 degrees F)
Extensive idling or stop-and-go driving
Trailer towing, driving with a car-top carrier, or driving in the mountains
Muddy, dusty, or de-iced roads

3,750 mi/6,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

7,500 mi/12,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.

11,250 mi/18,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

15,000 mi/24,000 km/1 yr
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Replace air cleaner element.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Replace rear differential fluid.
Lubricate all hinges, locks, and latches with multi-purpose grease.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids, and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
Check all lights.
Inspect the underbody.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.

18,750 mi/30,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

22,500 mi/36,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.

26,250 mi/42,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

30,000 mi/48,000 km/2 yrs
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Replace air cleaner element.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Replace rear differential fluid.
Lubricate all hinges, locks, and latches with multi-purpose grease.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids, and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
Check all lights.
Inspect the underbody.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.
Inspect drive belt.
Replace dust and pollen filter*.
* = See dust and pollen filter on page 187 of your owner's manual for replacement information under special driving conditions.

33,750 mi/54,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

37,500 mi/60,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.

41,250 mi/66,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

3 years
Replace brake fluid (independent of mileage).

45,000 mi/72,000 km/3 yrs
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Replace air cleaner element.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Replace rear differential fluid.
Lubricate all hinges, locks, and latches with multi-purpose grease.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids, and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
Check all lights.
Inspect the underbody.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.

48,750 mi/78,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

52,500 mi/84,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.

56,250 mi/90,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

60,000 mi/96,000 km/4 yrs
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Replace air cleaner element.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Replace rear differential fluid.
Lubricate all hinges, locks, and latches with multi-purpose grease.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids, and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
Check all lights.
Inspect the underbody.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.
Inspect drive belt.
Replace dust and pollen filter*.
* = See dust and pollen filter on page 187 of your owner's manual for replacement information under special driving conditions.
Replace transmission fluid.

63,750 mi/102,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

67,500 mi/108,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.

71,250 mi/114,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

75,00 mi/120,000 km/5 yrs
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Replace air cleaner element.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Replace rear differential fluid.
Lubricate all hinges, locks, and latches with multi-purpose grease.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids, and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
Check all lights.
Inspect the underbody.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.

78,750 mi/126,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

82,500 mi/132,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.

86,250 mi/138,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

6 years
Replace brake fluid (independent of mileage).

90,000 mi/144,000 km/6 yrs
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Replace air cleaner element.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Replace rear differential fluid.
Lubricate all hinges, locks, and latches with multi-purpose grease.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids, and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
Check all lights.
Inspect the underbody.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.
Inspect drive belt.
Replace dust and pollen filter*.
* = See dust and pollen filter on page 187 of your owner's manual for replacement information under special driving conditions.

93,750 mi/150,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

97,500 mi/156,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.

101,250 mi/162,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

105,000 mi/168,000 km/7 yrs
Replace spark plugs.
Inspect valve clearance.
Check idle speed.
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Replace air cleaner element.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Replace rear differential fluid.
Lubricate all hinges, locks, and latches with multi-purpose grease.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids, and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
Check all lights.
Inspect the underbody.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.

108,750 mi/174,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

112,500 mi/180,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.

116,250 mi/186,000 km
Replace engine oil and filter.

120,000 mi/192,000 km/8 yrs
Replace engine oil and filter.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Replace air cleaner element.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Replace rear differential fluid.
Lubricate all hinges, locks, and latches with multi-purpose grease.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids, and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
Check all lights.
Inspect the underbody.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.
Inspect drive belt.
Replace dust and pollen filter*.
* = See dust and pollen filter on page 187 of your owner's manual for replacement information under special driving conditions.

9 years
Replace brake fluid (independent of mileage).

120,000 mi/192,000 km/10 yrs
Replace engine coolant, then replace every 60,000 mi/96,000 km/5 yrs.

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Maintenance Schedule for normal conditions:


7,500 mi/12,000 km
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.

15,000 mi/24,000 km/1 yr
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Replace engine oil filter.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.

22,500 mi/36,000 km
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition

30,000 mi/48,000 km/2 yrs
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Replace engine oil filter.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.
Replace air cleaner element.
Replace rear differential fluid.
Replace dust and pollen filter.
Inspect drive belt.

37,500 mi/60,000 km
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.

3 years
Replace brake fluid (independent of mileage).

45,000 mi/72,000 km/3 yrs
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Replace engine oil filter.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.

52,500 mi/84,000 km
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.

60,000 mi/96,000 km/4 yrs
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Replace engine oil filter.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.
Replace air cleaner element.
Replace rear differential fluid.
Replace dust and pollen filter.
Inspect drive belt.

67,500 mi/108,000 km
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.

75,000 mi/120,000 km/5 yrs
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Replace engine oil filter.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.

82,500 mi/132,000 km
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.

6 years
Replace brake fluid (independent of mileage).

90,000 mi/144,000 km/6 yrs
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Replace engine oil filter.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.
Replace air cleaner element.
Replace rear differential fluid.
Replace dust and pollen filter.
Inspect drive belt.

97,500 mi/156,000 km
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.

105,000 mi/168,000 km/7 yrs
Replace spark plugs.
Inspect valve clearance.
Check idle speed.
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Replace engine oil filter.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.

112,500 mi/180,000 km
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.

120,000 mi/192,000 km/8 yrs
Replace transmission fluid.
Replace engine oil.
Check tire inflation and condition.
Inspect front and rear brakes.
Replace engine oil filter.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect driveshaft boots.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids and check for leaks.
#Inspect exhaust system.
#Inspect fuel lines and connections.
# = See information on maintenance and emissions warranty, last column, page 151 of your owner's manual.
Replace air cleaner element.
Replace rear differential fluid.
Replace dust and pollen filter.
Inspect drive belt.

9 years
Replace brake fluid (independent of mileage).

120,000 mi/192,000 km/10 yrs
Replace engine coolant, then replace every 60,000 mi/96,000 km/5 yrs.
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What are reasonable costs for 15K and 30K maintenance and where do you go? My honda dealer wants to charge me $260 for my 15K maintenance, does that seem too much?

The only other car I've owned was a corolla and the only maintenance it ever got were fluids and oil.
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I really do wonder how much of that 15K service for example is fluffy BS. Not that I want to ignore my car, but won't it probably be Ok if my door hinges go unlubed for a while?
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The 15K service is basically;

1. Oil change ($30 dino, $60 synth @ JiffyLube or whomever)
2. Diff Change ($23 @ Jiffy.....)
3. Replace Air Cleaner Element ($23 from site sponsors and DIY)

The rest is BS, look at this, inspect that, whatever. If inspections are so important to you, you can easily look and touch just like they do.

You can certainly stretch the life of the diff fluid as well. Unless you track and/or drive the car like you stole it, the diff fluid can go alot longer than 15K. I recently changed mine @ 30K miles and it looked SOOO good, the guy double checked with me to see if I still wanted to replace it (and I did).

Don't give into the OVER-INFLATED dealership service.
You can do as well or better out in the real world, and save a hell of alot of dough.
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Good - I concur that feedin the dealer for changing my oil & diff fluid ( which I've done 5x and 1x respectively already by 12K) is totally frickin dumm. Hopefully my tie rods wont explode on the way to work Monday.
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I do all of mine at home.
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Personally, I think most of the things in the 15K service is fluff. If you change your own oil, you're doing a pretty good visual inspection of the underside of your car already. If something looks greasy or banged up, then take a closer look. If you've never curbed or bottomed out your car, then a superficial inspection is all you need. Of course, changing the rear diff fluid should be done (if not sooner).

If you don't know what you're looking at, jack up the front of your car, buy a 12-pack of beer, and invite a friend that's into cars over to take a peek (make sure you have the car on jack stands and the rear wheels blocked if someone crawls underneath). Go down the list with him, and check it off when he's looked at it. If he's really into cars, he may even buy the beer just to have the opportunity to crawl under your car and see what it's got.

Valve adjustment isn't required until 105,000 miles, but if you want to keep it running at optimum performance you may want to consider doing it earlier. I wouldn't worry about lubing the hinges unless they squeak or they see a lot of dust & dirt.

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When adding oil between oil changed what oil does everyone use? Brand/store/etc?

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