What's a boosted AP1 like to drive compared to an Evo?
I know you from somewhere (evo123 forums perhaps)! We might even actually be facebook friends. I've got a JDM AP1 for use as a race car and also have an Evo 1 GSR. In N/a form the S2K and the Evo won't compare. The Evo weighs less, and makes the same power with more torque and AWD. But super or turbocharged, the S2000 will probably be a riot. The biggest thing to keep in mind is the RWD vs AWD thing, as others have mentioned. The Evo can be driven foot to the floor all the time and will have grip and control. The S2000, especially boosted... not so much. But you would have a more modern vehicle with a more accessible aftermarket and Honda reliability. I know our Evos are hard to find parts for, so I can totally understand the desire for something that in most cases you can still drive down to the dealer and order parts for.
An Evo does not weigh less than an S2000, and they are not the same power; the 0-60 time with good drivers is within a half a second, and the quarter mile is too, stock for stock; of course the Evo will respond to and be faster with bolt ons, but add boost to the S and properly tune it and a bolt-on Evo won't touch it. I speak from experience...
The purity of a s2k is its strong point. Pure performance driving perfection. If the only way you would take an s2k is boosted with 16psi, then I would suggest looking at other cars first. Something with more power stock. A c6 may do the trick. Also, try the z cars and maybe an fd.
Sounds like either way you are done with the evo. You know when it's time. Good luck with your new car search.
Sounds like either way you are done with the evo. You know when it's time. Good luck with your new car search.
This phase has happened before. I had a 5.0L Mustang until I got scammed on a pair of cylinder heads on eBay and completely lost heart in it. I sold that for a turbo Neon, which I had for 8 years and just sold to a good friend because I never drove it anymore thanks to the Evo. In October, I bought a BorgWarner S200SX that would have worked with the Evo (before buying the EFR), and when I finally flew home for Christmas, I found that somebody at eBay's international 3rd party shipper (Pitney Bowes) opened the box and removed the CHRA and turbine housing (the turbo was disassembled for shipping). So, I paid $450 for a compressor cover, and I'm feeling pissed and depressed about it, and the car. Usually I don't get over these things for some reason.
Well you shouldn't be discouraged with the things you mentioned above. Yea it does suck but that shouldn't make you lose interest right away. Perhaps you didn't like those cars enough.
I am an owner of a turbo s2000 and i will say that i will never drive a stock s2000 again. Its a totally different car and on the highway its hard to beat. With the right tires you can hook. I hook in every gear. But it will cost a little more if you want to track it. My best advice to you is to start with a low milage stock one. If you want to boost the gears on the ap2 are just too damn short. 03 ap1 is the way to go if you ask me.
I am an owner of a turbo s2000 and i will say that i will never drive a stock s2000 again. Its a totally different car and on the highway its hard to beat. With the right tires you can hook. I hook in every gear. But it will cost a little more if you want to track it. My best advice to you is to start with a low milage stock one. If you want to boost the gears on the ap2 are just too damn short. 03 ap1 is the way to go if you ask me.
i Owned a 2003 evo 8 and my 2002 turbo s2000 both for many many years. I ended up selling the evo for a prius and keeping the turbo s2000 due to me driving 100 miles a day for work. The s2000 is a much more fun car to drive as long as the s2000 is boosted. Compared to a Non boost s2000 i would pick the evo for sure. s2000 are unbarable to drive non boosted but once you boost them everything changes.
Originally Posted by riceball777
i Owned a 2003 evo 8 and my 2002 turbo s2000 both for many many years. I ended up selling the evo for a prius and keeping the turbo s2000 due to me driving 100 miles a day for work. The s2000 is a much more fun car to drive as long as the s2000 is boosted. Compared to a Non boost s2000 i would pick the evo for sure. s2000 are unbarable to drive non boosted but once you boost them everything changes.
That is my option. A non boosted s2000 to me is very unbearable to drive because of how horribly slow it is. The s2000 is so a again and great is just the shear lack of thrust that really kills the car. But the great this is these engine can make so much power with boost with out even building the engine. But like I said this is only my opinion. Lots of people may enjoy driving a car that can only trap 100mph is the 1/4 mile. I for one don't enjoy driving a car that traps under 120mph is the 1/4 mile.
That is my option. A non boosted s2000 to me is very unbearable to drive because of how horribly slow it is. The s2000 is so a again and great is just the shear lack of thrust that really kills the car. But the great this is these engine can make so much power with boost with out even building the engine. But like I said this is only my opinion. Lots of people may enjoy driving a car that can only trap 100mph is the 1/4 mile. I for one don't enjoy driving a car that traps under 120mph is the 1/4 mile.
To each his own...



and see how it feels before you start selling parts/evo




my turbo S2000. I'm only making 296 whp (Greddy kit) but the surge to VTEC is incredible. I agree with the comment above though, good tires are a must.