I have read over and over that so many people are pissed to see the 8000 RPM redline. But I don't get it? What's the big deal? We lost power after 8500 RPM's anyway. I never keep my car between 8000 and 9000 RPMs. More like 7000 to 8000 when I am pushing it. And the only reason why I go higher is when I am really pushing it. And the only reason I go up that far is because I have to to get the power out of the car. If the new engine lets me get power out of it without having to wait until 8500 RPMs then I will be more than happy.

I don't see what the fuss is all about?

Would you guys have perferred a 240 hp 1.8 liter 4 cylinder engine with a 10,000 RPM redline instead? Why work harder for the same output?

And I am not talking about being lazy and having a 300 hp V8 with a 4500 RPM redline either. There is a balance out there, and I think that we we're on the OTHER side of the spectrum of that balance. The MY04 S2000 is closer to the equilibrium of that balance if you ask me.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nastinupe1
I have read over and over that so many people are pissed to see the 8000 RPM redline.

 

Would you guys have perferred a 240 hp 1.8 liter 4 cylinder engine with a 10,000 RPM redline instead?
uh-huh.
my friend has a B16 that goes to 10,000rpms in his CRX and its loads of fun.

Why work harder for the same output?
cause its fun

The original S2000 was always a bit more 'extreme' as opposed to 'balanced' than other cars in its class... The exact reason I bought it. The high revs is a strong selling point for many of us here and lowering it to similar redline of a prelude hurts this factor. Sure there are other advantages too that his been already discussed on these forums, but some people just love revs.

 

What was one of the things the s2000 was known for when it first came out? Being one of the only cars with a 9000 redline in stock form. When you're road racing and you feel that you're going to hit the rev limiter, you look at your tach and you have 1000 more to go That may not be a valid excuse to favor the 9000rpm redline, but you can't deny that it adds to the excitement of the vehicle.

I haven't driven the '04 yet, so i'm gonna keep my opinions about the 8000 redline silent until i do.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nastinupe1

 

You can't compare the two cars by redline alone. If Honda had simply removed 1000 RPM's that would be bad because there were reasons they had the 9000 redline. For example, the gearing of the transmission along with the 9000 RPM redline guaranteed that you would never drop below VTEC when shifting. You say that you usually don't go above 8000 when pushing the car. Then you're dropping below VTEC when you shift which doesn't make sense to me. Honda compensated for the loss of 1000 RPM's by lowering the VTEC engagement point and changing the gearing. So, it's pretty much impossible to speculate on whether this will be good or bad. I'm anxious to drive the '04 and see if the change is detrimental or not. Early reviews seem to suggest that Honda kept the spirit alive even with the drop in RPM's.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Strike
You say that you usually don't go above 8000 when pushing the car.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nastinupe1

 

it seems the people complaining about the 8k redline dont care about the performance, but rather the superficial ideas associated with 9k rpms and random, seemingly meaningless bragging rights (redline and hp/L). its the overal output that should be most important, which the 04 does just as well, if not better than the 00-03. i think the problem is that the 00-03 owners are insecure that the 04 will be faster/more powerful and are comming up with whatever they can to justify the 00-03 being better. an example is right in this thread: "If you had $9,000 and I took $1,000 away from you. You would still have $8,000 which is a lot of money. Would you be annoyed that I took your $1,000 away?" how does the analogy of money have any relevance to rpms? i fail to see any connection other than the fact that the same numbers are used. if you are really so rediculously brainwashed into thinking 9k rpms is the end-all best thing on the planet, then go buy (or keep) an 00-03 and stop bitching about the 04s. its really not that hard.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by cfusionpm
it seems the people complaining about the 8k redline dont care about the performance, but rather the superficial ideas associated with 9k rpms and random, seemingly meaningless bragging rights (redline and hp/L).