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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MBHs2k
The car was super dated by 2010. Underpowered, too expensive, and bad mpgs. like honda had done with the prelude, crx, and nsx the s remained highly unchanged for many years and was behind in efficiency and technology.
This. And to whoever said it was for the 35th anniversary of Honda, it wasn't, it was for the 50th...
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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I remember when Toyota ran the Celica commerical: "Looks Fast" was the slogan

The one with the car parked and the dog running into the back of it...that was funny. Now the Celica is discontinued as well. While Honda has the Civic Si as a "sporty" car, and Toyota has the Scion TC...there are no true japanese sports cars under $50k. They are all bloated and too "luxurious" for me to call them sports cars (ie: G35/37). Sti/Evo are rally-sport more than a true sports car. And I will laugh if someone tries to call a Miata a sports car...

Where did all the japanese sports cars go? The market killed them.
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jorsher
Originally Posted by G' timestamp='1316959578' post='21003775
If you look at this data without outside influences (other cars introduced) you could contribute the downfall of the S2000 to the introduction of DBW and VSA in 2006.
I hope you're not saying VSA and DBW is why it started to decline

No I am not saying that, but if you were to look purely at the sales data, and nothing external such as new cars introduced into the market, the only major changes from 05 to 06 were DBW and VSA (along with a seat change). So if someone purely looks at the data there could be an argument that DBW and VSA killed the S. Again that is not considering any external factors.
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fernando.
Originally Posted by InTheZone' timestamp='1316976405' post='21004252
anyone ever seen a S2000 commercial? Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota, Nissan, I see a bunch of their cars, I don't ever remember seeing a commercial with the s2000 as the main attraction...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiFoeosCEQI
Oh man. I remember getting excited at that commercial. Unfortunately I was only 14 at the time and thus didn't have the means to get one
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RedCelica
I remember when Toyota ran the Celica commerical: "Looks Fast" was the slogan

The one with the car parked and the dog running into the back of it...that was funny. Now the Celica is discontinued as well. While Honda has the Civic Si as a "sporty" car, and Toyota has the Scion TC...there are no true japanese sports cars under $50k. They are all bloated and too "luxurious" for me to call them sports cars (ie: G35/37). Sti/Evo are rally-sport more than a true sports car. And I will laugh if someone tries to call a Miata a sports car...

Where did all the japanese sports cars go? The market killed them.
Although not really my taste, the 370Z is a good sports car made in japan for under 50k... The MX-5 is also a good sports car from japan for WAY under 50k.
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by G
Originally Posted by Jorsher' timestamp='1316975851' post='21004223
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If you look at this data without outside influences (other cars introduced) you could contribute the downfall of the S2000 to the introduction of DBW and VSA in 2006.
I hope you're not saying VSA and DBW is why it started to decline

No I am not saying that, but if you were to look purely at the sales data, and nothing external such as new cars introduced into the market, the only major changes from 05 to 06 were DBW and VSA (along with a seat change). So if someone purely looks at the data there could be an argument that DBW and VSA killed the S. Again that is not considering any external factors.
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Correlation, not Causation.

I wouldn't think that those 2 actual updates to the design were the problem. The problem was the hundreds of other updates that they chose not to make. Honda has just made the decision that they are not a sports car company these days. Development is too expensive and the margins too slim. They kept the S2000 alive for as long as the could without throwing any significant resources at it, but for the most part let it wither on the vine.

I look at the company right now and the impression I get from all their product is that they are in hibernation, waiting for the economy to come back around.
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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Ugliest car in existence...I refuse to acknowledge it.

bronx mentioned the miata...which makes me
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by omairtheman1
Cause the S3000 was coming into production.
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RedCelica
I remember when Toyota ran the Celica commerical: "Looks Fast" was the slogan

The one with the car parked and the dog running into the back of it...that was funny. Now the Celica is discontinued as well. While Honda has the Civic Si as a "sporty" car, and Toyota has the Scion TC...there are no true japanese sports cars under $50k. They are all bloated and too "luxurious" for me to call them sports cars (ie: G35/37). Sti/Evo are rally-sport more than a true sports car. And I will laugh if someone tries to call a Miata a sports car...

Where did all the japanese sports cars go? The market killed them.
Miata is very much a sports car. In my mind and the mind of many car enthusiasts I know (both in person and online) a sports car consists of: 2 seats, rear-wheel drive, light weight. The optional one that some debate is convertible top.

Lack of power does not disqualify it from being a sports car.
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by antom120
why did they discontinue the s2000?
IIRC it was always intended to be a limited production run.
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