why not V6 S2000?
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There's a nice cutaway drawing in Carney's S2000 book of the SSM. It shows a I5 engine in there.
An I5 could be very nice - there have been some great I5 engine in the past - Audi Ur Quattro, Fiat Coupe. Gives a nice engine note even before you add Honda know how.
I'd actually prefer some detail changes to the F20C rather than anything major - how much would it cost Honda to change the airbox for an intake closer to the Mugen CAI? If they tooled up, and used plastic, not carbon fiber then I'm sure it would be quite cheap. Then the S2000 would keep the power it has in more conditions.
Saving weight is a great idea - but using composite body panels would be costly and problematic for quality control. Even Lotus who've been building cars that way for years still have problems with quality. (Though it's much better now that it used to be.). Just think how well your S2000 is built - good panel gaps, very strong chassis etc. The chassis was inspired by the original Lotus Elan backbone steel chassis.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love an I5 S2000, I think it would be even better. But I think Honda balanced all the dynamics, cost and ownership issues quite well. So to get my S2000 exactly how I want it, I'm taking the base and doing a few tweaks
-Brian.
An I5 could be very nice - there have been some great I5 engine in the past - Audi Ur Quattro, Fiat Coupe. Gives a nice engine note even before you add Honda know how.
I'd actually prefer some detail changes to the F20C rather than anything major - how much would it cost Honda to change the airbox for an intake closer to the Mugen CAI? If they tooled up, and used plastic, not carbon fiber then I'm sure it would be quite cheap. Then the S2000 would keep the power it has in more conditions.
Saving weight is a great idea - but using composite body panels would be costly and problematic for quality control. Even Lotus who've been building cars that way for years still have problems with quality. (Though it's much better now that it used to be.). Just think how well your S2000 is built - good panel gaps, very strong chassis etc. The chassis was inspired by the original Lotus Elan backbone steel chassis.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love an I5 S2000, I think it would be even better. But I think Honda balanced all the dynamics, cost and ownership issues quite well. So to get my S2000 exactly how I want it, I'm taking the base and doing a few tweaks
-Brian.
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Maybe our mechanical engineers can answer this question:
I've heard the way to get more torque from a 4 cyl with the same capacity (2liters) was to make an engine with a smaller bore and a longer stroke. Anyone wanna comment?
I've wondered why Honda didn't go with the V6 from the Acura TL Type S. Its 260 HP and has to have more torque. they world probably tweak it to make 280-300 HP. Sure that would
increase the weight in front but they could beef up the A arms in the rear (man those things look thin as hell), as well as some other rear end components.
Honda has to do something and soon. I saw in Road & Track a couple of months ago that Mazda was working on a 250HP V6 for the Miata. Honda can't let our S2Ks get blown out of the water
by a little pu**y boy Miata.
I've heard the way to get more torque from a 4 cyl with the same capacity (2liters) was to make an engine with a smaller bore and a longer stroke. Anyone wanna comment?
I've wondered why Honda didn't go with the V6 from the Acura TL Type S. Its 260 HP and has to have more torque. they world probably tweak it to make 280-300 HP. Sure that would
increase the weight in front but they could beef up the A arms in the rear (man those things look thin as hell), as well as some other rear end components.
Honda has to do something and soon. I saw in Road & Track a couple of months ago that Mazda was working on a 250HP V6 for the Miata. Honda can't let our S2Ks get blown out of the water
by a little pu**y boy Miata.
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From: Mish-she-gan
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WarrenW
[B]Maybe our mechanical engineers can answer this question:
I've heard the way to get more torque from a 4 cyl with the same capacity (2liters) was to make an engine with a smaller bore and a longer stroke.
[B]Maybe our mechanical engineers can answer this question:
I've heard the way to get more torque from a 4 cyl with the same capacity (2liters) was to make an engine with a smaller bore and a longer stroke.
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From: Edison
you could always say why not this and why not that...appreciate the car for what it is for. not for complain for what it is not.
why not a v8 with massive hp and torque while at the same time making it all out of aluminum etc etc....then where would the price end? i like the way it is... a nice 4 banger
why not a v8 with massive hp and torque while at the same time making it all out of aluminum etc etc....then where would the price end? i like the way it is... a nice 4 banger
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