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Why wait only 600 miles before hitting VTEC?

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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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the old guy who i bought my car from never even vtec'd it! i was afraid to buy a used one but after i did some research on used S2000's and came across some 65 year old guy, i figured i buy it from him. lol, hope he didnt give the car to his grandchildren
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by steve c
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

This guy, and virtually every other engineer I know uses a similar approach -- and we are probably making more horsepower than you.
Where's the ultra super-sized rolling eye smilie when you need it?
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 11:40 AM
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In my RSX Type S I hit VTEC after 30 miles. I was running 14.9 1/4 mile times, stock.... most everyone else was 15.0 - 15.5

I'm a big believer in taking the car into VTEC during break-in. Just avoid hard braking, and quick full throttle bursts.
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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The folks I see following the manual are generally the same folks who don't know where the dipstick is and who take the car into the dealer to have the tires rotated.

Simply put, if you are ignorant as to the mechanics of an engine and feel you should follow Honda's recommendation, then by all means do so -- but blindly calling those who do understand the principles behind the above listed break-in procedures and choose to use them names is silly.
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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Honda should change the name from VTEC to SMILETEC
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by steve c
The folks I see following the manual are generally the same folks who don't know where the dipstick is and who take the car into the dealer to have the tires rotated.

Simply put, if you are ignorant as to the mechanics of an engine and feel you should follow Honda's recommendation, then by all means do so -- but blindly calling those who do understand the principles behind the above listed break-in procedures and choose to use them names is silly.
I think I'll follow the recommendations of the guys that built the engine. I don't care how you break in your car. However to say following Honda's recommendations is ignorance . . . well that's just a stupid statement.
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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i kept the revs under 5500 rpm for the first 600 miles and finally engaged vtec for the first time at 615 miles. after that, i slowly increased my "mental rev limit" as the car racked up more miles. the car has about ~5000 miles now and is getting stronger and stronger by the day. oil consumption is almost zero except when i get vtec happy.
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

This guy, and virtually every other engineer I know uses a similar approach -- and we are probably making more horsepower than you.[QUOTE]


As an engineer, show me the facts. I need more than anecdotal evidence before trusting some bonehead's advice in lieu of Honda and all the engineers and huge budgets employed by Honda to design, build, and test these engines.

Put it on the dyno or 1/4 mile strip if you think you are making more HP. That's where the BS stops.
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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motoman's logic seems sound... and for my sake i hope he is right. i bought my car with 35 miles on the odometer, but i only test drove the car from around 29 miles. if the guys/gals who test drove my car ran it hard, so be it.

my break-in from 35 to 600 miles was always below vtec, but i did accelerate hard through the gears up to 5,500 rpms... with decelerations as described in the moto website. of course, i never heard or this method before so i guess i was just lucky (or not if you're an easy break-in kinda guy).

so now my dilema is with 1,600 miles is - do i change the oil now or follow the owners manual? 3,750 or 7,500 miles? some day i may dyno my car to see what kinda hp and tq it really makes, but for now the ol' butt dyno will have to do
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by steve c
The folks I see following the manual are generally the same folks who don't know where the dipstick is and who take the car into the dealer to have the tires rotated.

Simply put, if you are ignorant as to the mechanics of an engine and feel you should follow Honda's recommendation, then by all means do so -- but blindly calling those who do understand the principles behind the above listed break-in procedures and choose to use them names is silly.
First of all, how ignorant do you think a lot of us owners are??? Secondly, do you rotate your tires on the S??? If so, how do you do it??? Since you don't rotate the tires like a regular vehicle. Youhave to remove the tires from their rims and put them on the other respective side of the car flipped around. So, it just might be easier to take it to a dealer to do that job. And thirdly, I'm not about to read something written by an engineer who had nothing to do with the design or manufacturing of this special engine.
I do know that I feel sorry for the person who buys your S from you since you seemed to abuse it right from the get go.
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