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Old 03-28-2006, 10:49 AM
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obviously, the only way to truly change the steering ratio would be to change the rack/pinion. but some have said that adding a beefier rear only sway would induce more oversteer? im no expert, but i'm in a ap2 chasing after the steering response of a ap1. would the sway help? and which company makes it?

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No.

You should really read up on vehicle dynamics before posting anything else like this.
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Your steering angle like you said will not change.

Putting a "beefy" rear sway and strut bar will cause oversteer more so than stock. If the back end has no flex it has the tendency to slide as opposed to flexing a little and keeping grip. I'm having a hard time tryin to explain it but it makes sense to why some of these bars are adjustable depending on what you wanna do with your car. I have seen this theory work first hand in both a 240sx and Integra GSR. Hope that helps some.
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Originally Posted by dyhppy,Mar 28 2006, 01:49 PM
obviously, the only way to truly change the steering ratio would be to change the rack/pinion. but some have said that adding a beefier rear only sway would induce more oversteer? im no expert, but i'm in a ap2 chasing after the steering response of a ap1. would the sway help? and which company makes it?

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If you want AP1 steering response, I recommend upgrading your front tires as a first step.
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[QUOTE=dyhppy,Mar 28 2006, 02:49 PM]obviously, the only way to truly change the steering ratio would be to change the rack/pinion.
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Originally Posted by Elistan,Mar 28 2006, 06:09 PM
If you want AP1 steering response, I recommend upgrading your front tires as a first step.
Shorter sidewalls usually equate to quicker steering response. Are the AP2 sidewalls really that floppy?
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You will increase understeer,but your steering ratio won't change.
steering response will be better,with shorter tires and stiffer sidewalls.
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I can talk from experience. I changed to a larger rear bar and received less rear body roll, but also received more oversteer. If you can handle that, it's great. I had trouble with it and changed back to a stock bar.
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Originally Posted by RED MX5,Mar 28 2006, 06:09 PM
Shorter sidewalls usually equate to quicker steering response. Are the AP2 sidewalls really that floppy?
I think the issue is more to do with contact patch - the OEM 215-wide fronts simply give up way too early. It'd get in a simple 90 degree right-hand turn on the street and the front would wash out so badly that adjusting the steering wheel had very little effect. I wasn't going fast enough to worry about hitting a curb or anything, so I could just ride it out but it was very frustrating to drive after being used to the response of an AP1. However, after putting on better tires (225 front, 255 rear Victoracers) the steering response was right back to the sharpness of the AP1. In fact it was a tad better because the extra margin of safety from the AP2 suspension tuning allowed me to be a bit more rough with the car.
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You can swap the rack and pinion from an AP1 to AP2.


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