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Would you convert your S2000 to an EV?

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Old Jan 9, 2021 | 07:42 PM
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Never!!
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Old Jan 10, 2021 | 12:04 PM
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I wouldn't combine them but I'd happily buy another EV just as soon as there's one available that can rival the Q7 for size and towing capacity without destroying the range. The Model X is close on size but can't match the other requirements.
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Old Jan 11, 2021 | 08:40 AM
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I personally would not be interested in an EV S2000 whatsoever. I made a post here recently about the merits of the S2000 vs. a car 3-4 times its cost...https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-ta...s2000-1205474/

The point is the sound and interaction of the vehicle is what makes the vehicle. If I couldn't shift through the gears and hear the engine howling at 8,500 RPM, I'm not sure exactly what would be exciting about the car. I know this will eventually be the future, I just hope I'm not around to see it, or am too old to care. The sound is so much of what makes a car and what engages you! Could you imagine watching a Formula 1 race with electric cars?! It doesn't work, I don't even know how that would be engaging to the fans watching live from the stands let alone on TV.

Electric would just diminish the S2000 so much I don't know what the point of the car would be with what's left.
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Old Jan 11, 2021 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by donkeykong
Could you imagine watching a Formula 1 race with electric cars?!
You mean like Formula E? It sounds like a bunch of dodgems turned up to 200, not appealing at all. A lack of sound in a commuter or long-distance EV is very much appreciated but sound (tonality, not just noise) adds immensely to the experience of a sports car.
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Old Jan 11, 2021 | 06:19 PM
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No, it's not the type of car for it. The charm of the AP1 is honestly the revs, pops and light toss-ability... Electric cars are cool though.
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Old Jan 14, 2021 | 06:46 AM
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This discussion makes me think about the people that mod their S with high boost. At what point does it no longer posses the character that makes these cars so special, and begin to resemble an ev that so many in this thread disdain?

Yet so many already go down that FI path. Once ev conversions become easier and more cost competitive with FI, expect to see more ev mods and less FI.

Of course, FI can be done in a way that retains the cars character, just amplifies it. But its a slippery slope. Once you taste power, you want more. That quest often leads you down a path that turns the car into something different than what lead you to this platform to begin with. You lose interest, and move on to something else.

Perhaps we'll see ev's that find a way to stir the soul. The extreme performance versions will have a sound, and maybe we'll come to embrace that sound. Most enjoy the high pitched whine of an old school blower. Who's to say we won't come to find the sound of ev performance enjoyable too?

I imagine those invested in high performing horses were pessimistic about automobiles taking over and how it would ruin things. The experience of being in sync with the animal. Wind in hair. The skill needed to ride well. To know how far you could push things. The rythmic sound of its hooves. Even the odors. It would all be gone.

But what it would soon be replaced with was better in many ways. And many of those things had an analog in the new machines. Something to learn to love as much, or even more, than what was lost with the demise of equine powered personal transportation.

I predict ev's will eventually find their way to satisfy our need for visceral speed. Differently than ice does now, yet in some ways better.

An ev adventure awaits us. But I'll still hold onto my ice S as long as its still possible to do so.
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Old Jan 14, 2021 | 07:12 AM
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I just hate it when my cel phone and laptop batteries drain faster than expected. It is even worse when your car does the same thing. It is a real safety factor for me when you don't get the miles you plan on getting.

Our Tesla Model 3 Has Lost 7 Percent of Battery Capacity in 24K Miles (msn.com)
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Old Jan 14, 2021 | 07:28 AM
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I saw that and was wondering how much loss you'd expect to see anyway during a Michigan winter, and if the dip will recover at all as things get warmer.
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Old Jan 14, 2021 | 12:21 PM
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Yes, I would. I own a number of S2000s, taking on another as a project for EV conversion is very appealing to me. Years ago, there was a young ambitious owner that started his own EV conversion and fully documented here on S2Ki. Unfortunately, he got really busy with Ted talks, I believe ended up going to college and never finished the car. There are/were a couple of earlier low-fi conversions done prior to that using lead-acid batteries...but weren't too exciting as far as keeping the S2K nature.

I believe with today's batteries and components, an EV s2000 would be great. Rywire has recently completed one using Tesla, Godzilla(?), and GM components. I'm keeping an eye out on feedback on how that drives.

The s2000 out of the box does lack torque, but in my opinion, that is/was the design and character engineered into the car. I learned the hard way only after I swapped in an LS1 into my original s2000. It changed the nature and driving dynamic of the car so much that it wasn't fun....it was soon swapped for a K-motor.

Having owned a Tesla Model S P85+ since 2013, I absolutely LOVE the power that car puts down. It's been a great daily, with 5 road trips to and from Chicago and Houston; at least 10 trips from Chicago to Detroit, and a couple of strips from Chicago to St. Louis there is absolutely NO concern with range nor reliability. Putting that into an S2K would be a HUGE plus, again IMHO.

I hope to be on a list to get a new Tesla roadster....only because I don't see a near future ability to get Roadster performance out of an EV S2k. BTW, the list I hope to be on is the "I hope I have enough money" list.
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Old Jan 14, 2021 | 01:26 PM
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I will say the same thing I did in a Facebook group on this question - They already ruined one Honda legacy (CRX) with the CRZ as an ugly hybrid. They already had the Insight and don’t know why they couldn’t make a cool modern CRX. Or make that the fully electric. Doing so as the successor for the S2000 would be tough to see for me.
This is the article that brought it up: https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...000-reboot-ev/
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