Alignment could have been more aggressive, tires could have been better. Too many variables to say for sure the AP1 is a better car. For me I say my AP2 is a better car than an AP1 because I can run much faster lap times than an AP1 isnt a solid way for me to decide the AP2 is better either.

 

Not having a clutch delay valve on the AP1 might make it feel "tighter".

 

who knows what was in the diff too, maybe shorter final drive? Lighter flywheel also probably made it feel faster, also could have just been the flashy lights going all the way across the dash unlike in the AP2. AP1 tach travels further, so it would need to travel faster if given same amount of time.

 

My AP1 is RAWWRR!!

 

I'm just going to say this. There might just be something wrong with your AP2, or the gearing in that ap1 changed. If there's one thing that even die hard ap1 owners will admit, is that it sucks down low, and while the AP2 is no V8, its considerably easier, and more responsive at the lower end. I've honestly never heard someone say the AP1 felt better at the lower end of the powerband.

So let's address this: It's not the wheels. The weight difference is faily marginal at best between the ap1 and ap2, and it's nothing that the increase of torque doesn't take care of. DBW lag is more or less non-existant in the S. I mean yes, technically it's there, but we're talking like a millisecond or 2 worth. As far as the suspension goes: Yes the AP1 suspension is more raw. For better or worse, the 06 suspension is a lot more tame.

Solutions: Either get an AP1 setup, a CR setup, or a decent (not cheap, but you don't need to go high end) coilover setup. Something around the PSS9 price/perforance ratio. Definitely don't go cheap on suspension components. If you're really concerned about the DBW, get a flashpro. Hell, imo no owner of an 06+ shouldn't have a flashpro. You can get rid of DBW lag altogether through the throttle plate, and get some extra ponies/tq's with a tune.

 

AP2 is a better overall car, track proven.

First race is a stock AP1 vs. a stock AP2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtdOU-yyZ_w

 

AP1 100 series-
Front sway bar part number: 51300-S2A-003
28.2mm (HOLLOW) with a 5mm Sidewall
Rating at 61.6N/mm

Rear sway bar part number: 52300-S2A-013
27.2mm (HOLLOW) with a 5.3mm Sidewall
Rating at 73N/mm

AP1 110 Series-
Front sway bar part number:
51300-S2A-J01
27.2mm (HOLLOW) with a 5mm Sidewall
Rating at 53.6N/mm

Rear sway bar part number: 52300-S2A-013
27.2mm (HOLLOW) with a 5.3mm Sidewall
Rating at 73N/mm

AP2 120 Series-
Front sway bar part number: 51300-S2A-013
26.5mm (HOLLOW) with a 4.5mm Sidewall
Rating at 46.6N/mm

Rear sway bar part number: 52300-S2A-J01
27.2mm (HOLLOW) with a 4.5mm Sidewall
Rating at 67.6N/mm

130 Series-
Front sway bar part number: 51300-S2A-013
26.5mm (HOLLOW) with a 4.5mm Sidewall
Rating at 46.6N/mm

Rear Sway bar part number:
Do not have
25.2mm (HOLLOW) with a 4.5mm Sidewall
Rating at 51.6N/mm

S2000 Eibach Sway Bar rates:

Front: 32mm Adjustable (HOLLOW)
Pos.1 - 65 N/mm (368lbs/in)
Pos.2 - 73 N/mm (416lbs/in)
Weight - 4.8kg (10.6lbs.)

Rear: 29mm Adjustable (HOLLOW)
Pos.1 - 90 N/mm (515lbs/in)
Pos.2 - 106 N/mm (605lbs/in)
Weight - 4.9kg (10.8lbs.)

 

I seriously think we have this discussion about once a week here.

 

yuuuuuuuuup. I dont think anybody is having their minds changed on this either. I love my ap2's, some love their ap1's, all that is too it

 

AP2's are raw, but AP1's are RAWR! Hehe