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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 05:55 AM
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BOO on the silver part..lol.. go with NFR.. for the win...
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 06:02 AM
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compression your looking to be +/- 10% across.... which that engine seems to be. i wouldnt be concered about that comp. test.

the problem with rebuilding a s2k is the stock sleeves like the older prelude h22's they have frm liners(fiber reinforced metal)great product but not serviceable, so it cannot be bored or honed out like a traditional sleeve. thats what makes the bottom end hard to rebuild. so if you fry your piston rings, drop a valve, melt a piston, or any other endless possabilities of damaging the bottom end you hae two choices. resleeve the bottom end or replace the engine. sourcing a lower mileage engine is both easier and cheaper.

the respray leads me to believe its been hit or had body damage at one point in its life. if you repaint a car typically you go for another color, not the same color with a slightly darker hue. secondly if you need a touch up or respray yourself you dont have the paint code. its going to make it much harder to color match if something happens in the future

lastly the oem seats probably were stolen or beat and the evo seats were sourced cheaper than good looking s2k seats. my concern would be how are they bolted in. legit brackets or a back woods hack job. i would prefer oem seats but to each his own.

is it worth 10k....only you can answer if you think its worth 10k to you. personally i wouldnt pay that much
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by S2KPUDDYDAD
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I have an 00 (first year) car and don't see it as the least desirable year to buy.

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Sure I prefer the AP1 feel... but the '00 In my experience...

came with a crap clutch, with a crap transmission, an inferior engine oiling system, an ECU with less than ideal tune, wheel bearings needing torque, a cat prone to failure, a suspension setup that is best tweaked, a plastic widow without a scratch pad, a spartan interior finish, a dash prone to heat stress, a crap sound system, among the often discussed retainers more easily cracked and TCT deterioration.

Just sayin, I have spent a lot of time and money to keep my '00 in a state worth driving.
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cdelena
Originally Posted by S2KPUDDYDAD' timestamp='1423716839' post='23503153
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I have an 00 (first year) car and don't see it as the least desirable year to buy.

...
Sure I prefer the AP1 feel... but the '00 In my experience...

came with a crap clutch, with a crap transmission, an inferior engine oiling system, an ECU with less than ideal tune, wheel bearings needing torque, a cat prone to failure, a suspension setup that is best tweaked, a plastic widow without a scratch pad, a spartan interior finish, a dash prone to heat stress, a crap sound system, among the often discussed retainers more easily cracked and TCT deterioration.

Just sayin, I have spent a lot of time and money to keep my '00 in a state worth driving.

Some of the issues you mention are not exclusive to the 2000 S2000, they very in span over several years....

The clutch issue, I'm guessing clutch buzz. This issue has been reported in years up to 04.
The AP1 transmission in my opinion and experance has been great, the AP2 (04 to 09) with carbon synchronizes is in some respects better.
The oil jet bolts in the AP1 are adequate for 99% of us but if you do drive aggressively or race the car the late 2002/09 4 hole oil jet bolts are better.
The AP1 ECU (2000 to early 02) runs the car overly safe, this is true but not hard to deal with. A simple tune on a VAFC or a latter model ECU will clean it up. Also, all the ECUs run the car heavy with fuel its just the 00/01 that run the most rich.
The added torque on the axle nuts are an issue on all years, not just the 00
Not aware of a CAT issue to the 00. As far as I have experanced and have seen the CAT is virtually the same with the same stainless steel media on all years S2000.
The AP1, again not exclusive to the 2000 year has a more experanced driver based suspension system where as the AP2 (excluding the C/R) has a more novice driver friendly setup. It is a great part of the rawness of the car and what makes the AP1 Special to many of us.
Plastic rear window, enough said...I can agree it is not great but came in the 2001 as well not just the 00.
The sparse interior and crap radio can be said of most years with debate. For me it is not a deal breaker as the car was never intended to be full of creature comfort's. I do understand about the dash issue and heat but not exclusive to just the 00 car.
Retainers can be an issue if you over rev the 00 to 03 S2000 via a bad down shift. My retainers in my 2000 were pristine condition but I opted to change them out anyway to the AP2. The TCT is also not exclusive to the 00 all years have to deal with it sooner or latter. My 2000 still has its original TCT and it is working flawlessly.

I respect your opinion and the long Jevity that you have been an owner and your time here on the form. I'm sure some of these issues have cost you a good deal of money in the early years.
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 09:02 AM
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Hmmm.. very interesting... I agree that the AP2 were made more for the regluar drivers VS the Raw PuddyDaddy is talking about.
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by S2KPUDDYDAD
Originally Posted by cdelena' timestamp='1423754169' post='23503481
[quote name='S2KPUDDYDAD' timestamp='1423716839' post='23503153']
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I have an 00 (first year) car and don't see it as the least desirable year to buy.

...
Sure I prefer the AP1 feel... but the '00 In my experience...

came with a crap clutch, with a crap transmission, an inferior engine oiling system, an ECU with less than ideal tune, wheel bearings needing torque, a cat prone to failure, a suspension setup that is best tweaked, a plastic widow without a scratch pad, a spartan interior finish, a dash prone to heat stress, a crap sound system, among the often discussed retainers more easily cracked and TCT deterioration.

Just sayin, I have spent a lot of time and money to keep my '00 in a state worth driving.

Some of the issues you mention are not exclusive to the 2000 S2000, they very in span over several years....

The clutch issue, I'm guessing clutch buzz. This issue has been reported in years up to 04.
The AP1 transmission in my opinion and experance has been great, the AP2 (04 to 09) with carbon synchronizes is in some respects better.
The oil jet bolts in the AP1 are adequate for 99% of us but if you do drive aggressively or race the car the late 2002/09 4 hole oil jet bolts are better.
The AP1 ECU (2000 to early 02) runs the car overly safe, this is true but not hard to deal with. A simple tune on a VAFC or a latter model ECU will clean it up. Also, all the ECUs run the car heavy with fuel its just the 00/01 that run the most rich.
The added torque on the axle nuts are an issue on all years, not just the 00
Not aware of a CAT issue to the 00. As far as I have experanced and have seen the CAT is virtually the same with the same stainless steel media on all years S2000.
The AP1, again not exclusive to the 2000 year has a more experanced driver based suspension system where as the AP2 (excluding the C/R) has a more novice driver friendly setup. It is a great part of the rawness of the car and what makes the AP1 Special to many of us.
Plastic rear window, enough said...I can agree it is not great but came in the 2001 as well not just the 00.
The sparse interior and crap radio can be said of most years with debate. For me it is not a deal breaker as the car was never intended to be full of creature comfort's. I do understand about the dash issue and heat but not exclusive to just the 00 car.
Retainers can be an issue if you over rev the 00 to 03 S2000 via a bad down shift. My retainers in my 2000 were pristine condition but I opted to change them out anyway to the AP2. The TCT is also not exclusive to the 00 all years have to deal with it sooner or latter. My 2000 still has its original TCT and it is working flawlessly.

I respect your opinion and the long Jevity that you have been an owner and your time here on the form. I'm sure some of these issues have cost you a good deal of money in the early years.
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these are the info i really want to get thank you S2KPUDDYDAD! i have some plans for the car but not when i get it. im not planning to race it or anything i just want a nice s2000 to drive and in the future im planning to build the motor NA!
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 02:49 PM
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The only other years S2000 I would own are, 07, 08, or 09 C/R. My first S was a 2002 API I owned for 8 years then sold I bought the 00 I have now about a year latter. I always wanted a first year red or black S2000 so I was very happy when I found the NFR car I have now. When I bought it, it had just 37k miles and was bone stock. After just a short time of ownership I found it to be a better car than my 02 was.
My old 02 used about a quart to a quart and a half of oil between 3k oil changes, my 00 uses none
My engine compression and power is better and my transmission shifts smooth as glass.

My advice to you is buy the very best car you can afford. Try to buy it stock or as close to stock as you can. It is a good idea to do a compression and leak down test to be sure the engine is healthy. Compression should not range more than a few pounds between cylinders.
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