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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 06:15 AM
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what do u think of amuse header and toda header...
which one perform better.....
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 06:47 AM
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There has been some threads posted up about this. Try a "search" and you'll see them. I recall someone with a Toda header did a dyno and showed absolutely no significant gain. However, someone with F.I. and a Toda showed stunning gains but the circumstances behind that may have been skewed.
I'm not sure if anything has been posted about the Amuse.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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Toda dynoes haven't been consistant thus far.

Amuse, however, is of the exact same design as the Mugen with slightly different piping diameters. The Mugen piece has shown very consistant gains, just like Mugen claimed, so I'd expect roughly the same gains from the Amuse.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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and the mugen comes with a heatshield too!
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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The Toda piece is having recurring problems with brackets failing and Toda absolving themselves of all responsibility.

We dropped the motor on a N/A Toda equipped car over the weekend and waddaya know...busted bracket.

I have no dyno info to share.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 02:21 PM
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I have no data on the Amuse header, other than it's on some of the fastest S2000's in Japan.

The Mugen is a nice piece, robbing a little off peak HP with gains all over the rpm spread, giving significant boosts in the mid range.

The Toda if I'm not mistaken was UL (ultimate lurker's) choice since he was running the Mugen for some time. There has to be a pretty good reason for his choice, however looking at the design of the header, I'd think there'd be a little more noise due to the thin walls of the tubes. The Mugen is a beautifiul piece and that heatshield makes it look almost stock.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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i want someone to dyno the amuse already....
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 06:15 AM
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Has anyone dyno'd the Mugen with their FI setup?
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by BlueS2000Boy
i want someone to dyno the amuse already....
I thought YOU were going to post dyno results once you got one....
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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FYI, gains from Toda header.
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