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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Hey guys.....just got done removing the oil pan from an 02, engine# 1023992. The guy had a loud, heavy tapping noise that got worse as the car warmed up. The #4 cyl is scored to hell on the drivers side of the cyl wall. The other three are flawless. He's a regular customer, and he has been well informed about the possibly of the s2k burning oil, so he check's it regularly. We only use Mobil1 with the Honda PCX filter. His engine # does fall in the range of the engines using the old style oil jet banjo bolts (1025385 and lower). Basically another genuine case of an engine going bad for no reason at all....There are approximately 30+ cases of this same problem with other cars on s2ki alone.

Just a reminder to those who have not done this update, I would strongly recommend it. If you have an 02 or earlier, check the engine # on the sticker in the front of the engine.....1025385 and lower, you should update. 1205386 and newer, you're ok.

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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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How much would labor be to change to the new banjo bolts?
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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It's not to bad of a job actually.....oil pan removal is pretty easy on this car. After that, just remove the windage tray (7 bolts) and the bolts are pretty easy to get at. Torque on the bolts is ultra crital, a high quality torque wrench is a must.

Part # 15290-PCX-000, bolt, 4 required

1 tube of Hondabond grey sealer for the oil pan, that's it for parts...
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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This is important enough information that I'll leave it here.
And I'll link the "How To" thread about changing the bolts:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=102067
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. Just one more question. I'm the third owner of my s2k(2000) and the car has over 76k right now. According to carfax, the car never had any serious problems, but I don't really trust carfax. Is there a way to be able to tell if the previous owners had change the banjo bolts?

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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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You would have to find him and ask him.....the answer is likely no.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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You know, I read that a guy pulled a bolt, below the supposed engine #, and he had the new bolts....Think I'll pull one and be sure.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by billman250,Mar 10 2005, 06:15 PM
check the engine # on the sticker in the front of the engine.....1025835 and lower, you should update. !205836 and newer, you're ok.
where is the serial number exactly? maybe i'm blind but i can't find a sticker on the engine anywhere...
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I have a set of banjo's if anyone needs them.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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More info...#4 cyl is scored on both sides...score areas are the exact width of the piston skirts...

The bolts are the older 2 hole style...
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