S2000 Under The Hood S2000 Technical and Mechanical discussions.

AP1 16" stiff sidewall tires??? 2019

Thread Tools
 
Old 01-05-2019, 10:57 AM
  #11  

 
Scigheras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: the Netherlands
Posts: 506
Received 74 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Hallo mede nederlander

I've got AD08R (but in 17 inch). They have a really stiff sidewall, and are very very grippy (in the dry). Also seem to last long, have at least 10.000k's on them so far, still lots of thread left. And they are available in the Netherlands, sounds like the tire you are looking for
Old 01-05-2019, 11:38 AM
  #12  

 
nipponS2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 714
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Got the ADO8R on my jdm bbs 16'' rims.They are exactly what you need!For me,the only solution for Ap1's 16''.They are a little better of the oem S02's.
Old 01-05-2019, 12:44 PM
  #13  

Thread Starter
 
simons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 214
Received 6 Likes on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by 86j
Bridgestone re71r's are pretty stiff in the OEM 16" sizes. You can get about 15000km's out of them.
I checked but not available here in Holland
Old 01-05-2019, 01:54 PM
  #14  

 
noodels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Norfolk UK
Posts: 5,352
Received 354 Likes on 329 Posts
Default

Got Nankang NS2-R on my civic,are really good.
Had Federal 595 rsr on my S2000 I rate them also.
Old 01-05-2019, 04:41 PM
  #15  
Community Organizer

 
freq's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: in my garage
Posts: 20,991
Received 185 Likes on 163 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by simons
I can buy current Bridgestone S02 (with N3 porsche approval). They look the same, same oem sizes. But I read old threads to stay away from them. Not sure why? If porsche approved them for their older cars with 16" tires they must be good right? I know that the porsche rims are 0.5 inch wider (7j front instead of 6.5j front on the s2k) but same 205-55-16 tire.

Does anybody know if the s02 n3 are also stiff? And if there is any reason not to try them? I can only order online so no way to see and inspect.
I'm willing to bet the N3 Porsche spec tires are of lower tread depth. Less squirm but also reach the wear bars (and cords) more quickly.

Tread depth will also contribute tothe feel of stiffness to some extent.
Old 01-06-2019, 02:00 AM
  #16  

 
rpg51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Vermont
Posts: 3,295
Received 256 Likes on 219 Posts
Default

First, I use 16" wheels and my steering response is excellent with good tires. I have used 17" in the past.The extra sidewall is there with the 16" wheels, that is true. But honestly don't think it negatively impacts steering response in a way that is discernible.

Also, the knock on the S02 tires was/is poor wet weather performance and poor treadwear. In dry warm weather reports are positive. They are very expensive. There are other street tires that give great performance all around with more modern design and more reasonable price point. Conti Extremecontact and Firestone Firehawk come to mind. There are others. I use an all season tire in during the early spring and late fall and even they give really good performance, ( BF Goodrich, G-Force Comp-2).

I have used S02 tires and I did not like them for the reasons stated above. Being fair, the tires I was using were old. So I don't know if my experience reflects the tires fairly. But, I'm sticking to some of the other options for now.
Old 01-07-2019, 02:05 PM
  #17  

Thread Starter
 
simons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 214
Received 6 Likes on 1 Post
Default

Thanks for all input. Im leaning towards the Yokohamas AD08R.

Are they any forgiving at the limit? Or are they more like an on > off in terms of grip on the limit?

I also have an almost new set of S02 n3 set of rear tires that I bought from a porsche driver laying around ready to be mounted.

Can I combine the rear S02's with a front set of Yokohamas, or should I buy a full set of Yokohamas? I know general opinion is get all 4s, but just asking because they seem like a similar tire in road properties.

Please chime in
Old 01-07-2019, 02:28 PM
  #18  

 
Chuck S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Chesterfield VA
Posts: 12,552
Received 1,138 Likes on 1,001 Posts
Default

Since our cars are highly tire sensitive, even to tire pressure, running mixed tire brands or tread patterns is unpredictable.

I still think you're chasing your tail with narrow 16" wheels when there are wider OE size 17" wheels easily available along with a boat load of competent 17" tires.

-- Chuck
Old 01-10-2019, 11:07 AM
  #19  

Thread Starter
 
simons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 214
Received 6 Likes on 1 Post
Default

@Chuck S I get your point, but I dont have budget to upgrade to 17. Also here in europe wheels are harder to find, especially used. So im trying to look for the best solution for my situation.

About the Yokohamas AD08R. Do they also work well as a daily driver in normal operating temperatures or do they need to get warm to grip well? Do they work fine down to +-10C outside temp? I have dedicated wintertires if temps drop further.

thanks
Old 01-10-2019, 02:53 PM
  #20  

 
nipponS2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 714
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

They need to warm up a little to get the full grip but they grip nice also with wet conditions.I think for 16'' rims they are the best solution.Check the specs and compare them with the oem s02's.Many Japanese tuners use them for their track projects.


Quick Reply: AP1 16" stiff sidewall tires??? 2019



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:57 PM.