AP1 fuse 23
#1
AP1 fuse 23
Fuse 23 (under dash) keeps burning out when I shift the car into Reverse. I change the fuse and everything works fine until I shift the car into reverse. It controls my tailights, keyless entry, dash/gauge lights, etc. It all started when Fuse 5 burnt out, replaced it, then now Fuse 23 is acting up. Not too good with electrical stuff but was able to figure out it shorts the fuse when I engage reverse gear.
any ideas? Thanks.
note: car is all stock. Reverse lights are stock.
2001 S2K
any ideas? Thanks.
note: car is all stock. Reverse lights are stock.
2001 S2K
Last edited by itsStringerBell; 05-11-2018 at 05:14 PM. Reason: Typo
#2
Fuse 23 (under dash) keeps burning out when I shift the car into Reverse. I change the fuse and everything works fine until I shift the car into reverse. It controls my tailights, keyless entry, dash/gauge lights, etc. It all started when Fuse 5 burnt out, replaced it, then now Fuse 23 is acting up. Not too good with electrical stuff but was able to figure out it shorts the fuse when I engage reverse gear.
any ideas? Thanks.
note: car is all stock. Reverse lights are stock.
2001 S2K
any ideas? Thanks.
note: car is all stock. Reverse lights are stock.
2001 S2K
#3
Fuse 5 is most likely the culprit. It should be 7.5 amp; 23 should be 10 amp. Most importantly fuses come in two types; slow blow and fast blow. You need slow blow in both applications. When items are first powered up (like reverse lights) a current surge occurs in the electrical circuit. It is very brief. A slow blow is designed to absorb the “in rush current” while a fast blow will pop right away. My guess is it a fuse issue. Verify rating and slow blow in both locations.
Utah
Utah
#4
Fuse 5 is most likely the culprit. It should be 7.5 amp; 23 should be 10 amp. Most importantly fuses come in two types; slow blow and fast blow. You need slow blow in both applications. When items are first powered up (like reverse lights) a current surge occurs in the electrical circuit. It is very brief. A slow blow is designed to absorb the “in rush current” while a fast blow will pop right away. My guess is it a fuse issue. Verify rating and slow blow in both locations.
Utah
Utah
Im going to assume they are fast blow (I’m away from the car and fuses at the moment). If they are fast blow, what would be the benefit of using a slow blow?
thanks
#6
Went down to my local Zone and asked if they carried Slow blow or delayed fuses. They had no idea what I was talking about. Looked through the different fuses they had and didn’t notice a difference in them other than sizing and brand.
am I missing something here?
am I missing something here?
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#8
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I guarantee your problem is not fuse type.
Power is finding ground and blowing the fuse.
Think of any work that was ever performed on the car. Body, mechanical, anything. I can almost guarantee you will find a human induced error.
Follow the wire harness for the reverse lights, starting at the transmission.
Power is finding ground and blowing the fuse.
Think of any work that was ever performed on the car. Body, mechanical, anything. I can almost guarantee you will find a human induced error.
Follow the wire harness for the reverse lights, starting at the transmission.
#9
as billman noted you have a short. Has the tranny ever been opened up, if so they may have messed up dropping the subframe and stretched the wiring at the tranny
#10
Follow the 00-01 S2000 Electrical Troubleshooting Manual published by American Honda Motor Co. Part number 6S2A01EL. Hopefully others posting have said manual as I do. I asked about the fuse as I had this issue years ago on another circuit and it’s a good place to start. As Billman noted look at what may have been disturbed. Areas of interest per the noted manual:
Fuse 5- Back Up Light and Instrument Light Circuit
Back up lights
DRL indicator (Canada only)
EPS Control unit
Gauge Assembly
Keyless Door Lock Control Unit
Convertible Top Control Unit
Fuse 23 Small Light Control Circuit
Audio Unit Light
Cruise Control Main Switch Light
Front Parking Lights
Gauge Lights
Hazard Warning Indicator Lights
Hazard Warning Switch Light
Heater Control Panel Lights
Keyless Door Lock Control Unit
License Plate Plate Light
Option Connector
Convertible Top Switch Light
Rear Side Marker Lights
Tail Lights
Hopefully you find the short to ground where suggested as the Rear Lights are tied to both 5 and 23. If not look at other areas which may have been disturbed as previously noted, particularly items common to both fuses.
Utah
Fuse 5- Back Up Light and Instrument Light Circuit
Back up lights
DRL indicator (Canada only)
EPS Control unit
Gauge Assembly
Keyless Door Lock Control Unit
Convertible Top Control Unit
Fuse 23 Small Light Control Circuit
Audio Unit Light
Cruise Control Main Switch Light
Front Parking Lights
Gauge Lights
Hazard Warning Indicator Lights
Hazard Warning Switch Light
Heater Control Panel Lights
Keyless Door Lock Control Unit
License Plate Plate Light
Option Connector
Convertible Top Switch Light
Rear Side Marker Lights
Tail Lights
Hopefully you find the short to ground where suggested as the Rear Lights are tied to both 5 and 23. If not look at other areas which may have been disturbed as previously noted, particularly items common to both fuses.
Utah