Here's an interesting article about some German company that's adapting the Porsche brakes to other cars. Scoll down a bit for the English.

http://www.movit.de/htm/info.htm

What they say about the ceramic rotors, however, doesn't jive with what I'd read in Christophorus. Maybe they're talking about a different sort of rotor than what's on the new 996TTs, since those are definitely designed for street use and operate perfectly well at those temps.

Here's a little writeup from Porsche about their PCCBs. http://www.porsche.com/english/911/models/...safety/pccb.htm It contradicts some of the stuff in the above website. *shrug*

I'd be interested in some PCCBs, but I already know I couldn't afford any sort of S2000 conversion.

 

cmnsnse...maybe you need a new handle.

 

I would be interested in any brake system that can show good positive improvement, but I am not interested in anything until I see actual data.

 

Well heck, Ill get the ball rolling on the prototype, quite honestly Ive been through about 4 designs and each time I think of something else that would make them easier for manufacturing or installation.

I have pretty much settled on the design, mostly the rotors would be the same overall dimentions but overcast to a larger diameter as to be cost effective if someone would want a 13" or better setup, but they can be turned down to 11.8 for a direct replacement of only the rotors(fnt)
As I was pulling the brake system off I thought hey why not make the calipers too, then I can fit a larger rotor in there and not have to worry about wheels/fit.
And while Im at it why not design into them efficiency in cooling, after all your just using them to change forward motion into heat.

I was mostly doing these as a personal project, but with enough interest can go ahead and get them done faster. But I dont want to get anyones hopes up, as there is always a possibility there will be problems with making them or the material may need to be modified, but that will all come out in testing, and I will surely let everyone know the results when that time comes.

 

heh what would you have in mind? I've become quite infamous for my unorthodox thinking in one way or another

Mingster, I will definitly let you know whats going on with these things. BTW what is your price range for your x-brace? because no, I didnt see that thread . . .

 

The S2000 stops within 1-2% of the distance of the best street cars in the world, and with a simple pad/duct mod has little or no fade on the track. With very inexpensive mods for fluid, pads, and lines you can wind up with braking that is unmatched in just about any street car at any price.

As I see it, the advantage to some of these changes discussed is not better braking but a reduction in unsprung weight and rotating mass. I know this is a good thing to do but I am unsure of how you measure the impact.. what do I get for every pound I reduce from the braking system on each wheel? what gain in acceleration and in handling?

 

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As I see it, the advantage to some of these changes discussed is not better braking but a reduction in unsprung weight and rotating mass. I know this is a good thing to do but I am unsure of how you measure the impact.. what do I get for every pound I reduce from the braking system on each wheel?

 

Heh, I got more specifics on the Ti material, cant say what its made of (they wont tell me) but will let the rotors weigh MUCH less than 6lbs, I dont want to say untill I have one in my hand

Could almost save 20lbs PER WHEEL (rotor and caliper) in front, ummm no thats NOT a typo . . .

That would be umm errr like 60-70lbs off the weight of the car for a complete system, lemme go wake up now . . .

 

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Stock rotor = 14lbs-5.75 ozs - 6 lb rotors = 8lbs 5.75 ozs of weight savings
Stock calipers = 11lbs-2ozs - the other 11lbs-10.25ozs of weight savings and Ti calipers and pads weigh -8.25 ozs
don't know what they cost but would be neat.

just kidding
brad 6410

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