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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 07:33 AM
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I have a 2002 with 100,000 miles now. The only mod that was done was Skunk 2 lowering springs that were done before I bought it. I am having a vibration from the rear when i accelerate.. I am thinking the axles because it was lowered are wear out on the CV cups.. at around 30 MPH it is bad, gets better as you get up to speed. Even at 70 though if you use the gas, ( any amount ) it vibrates, I am leaning towards axles or Rear dif.. Anyhow I have a set I can get today out of a 2005 with 63,000, 150.00 got both.. all i have to do is drive there, any thoughts?
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 07:49 AM
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It's the CV cups. Either replace them, switch them from side to side, or get halfshaft spacers. Easy fix.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by calebzimm
It's the CV cups. Either replace them, switch them from side to side, or get half shaft spacers. Easy fix.
You can't get new cups without spending a ton of cash.. 42320-S2A-310 005 002 JOINT, INBOARD 347.50 243.25 - My plans is to get the Ap2 Axles and get spacers.. Vibration has worsened, so I don't really want to keep them you know?
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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Dont waste your money on either.

Swap the cups left to right, $0.00, and it will be as good as new.
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Billman250
Dont waste your money on either.

Swap the cups left to right, $0.00, and it will be as good as new.
Hey Billman. Here is my dilemma. I look at everything is a mechanical point of view. I am guessing when a car is lowered, this happens because the camber that is created is now forcing the CV (bearings) to be in a new place. By switching cups yes the vibration is gone, but If the cups are the same size, and the same thing ( part number ) then this occurrence will happen again, maybe not now, or in twenty thousand miles, but maybe 40 thousand miles. I do not want this coming back, If a camber kit was installed placing the axle back into the correct spot I feel this would help the issue.

My next problem is axle spacers, lets say I put them on, and then did a full alignment with a camber kit, it would then have pushed the CV into the cup even further out. Sorry I am over thinking this.. I drove an hour and bought two axles that just came off a '05 with 63K on them.. so I want to figure out what to do before I put these on and have the same issue.

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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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Have you read this?
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/693...r-lowered-car/
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 04:08 AM
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^ Yeah I read that, but it is only about bucket swapping, which [solves the problem for how long] I want to know if a proper alignment and a camber kit will take care of the issue entirely,. I feel this issue has not been looked into enough.

-Eathen
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by OneSilverS2k
^ Yeah I read that, but it is only about bucket swapping, which [solves the problem for how long] I want to know if a proper alignment and a camber kit will take care of the issue entirely,. I feel this issue has not been looked into enough.

-Eathen
I can assure you that your theory will not work permanently either, but go ahead and try.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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A stock s2k can pit just as fast, if not sooner that a lowered car.

Lowering the car moves the bucket less than ONE MM. This .5 MM shift can accelerate a bucket that has ALREADY started to have metalurgic breakdown. It is not caused by position or angle. Therefore, there is NOTHING you can do to make you buckets last longer aside from driving style and habits.

So...a lowered s2k or a stock s2k, both with new buckets, driven under the exact conditions, will pit at the exact same time.

Driving habit and style can accelerate or lengthen the process. I have seen a stock s2k with 29k miles with pitted buckets.

My car has 115k lowered miles and my buckets are perfect. Why? because they was no metalurgic breakdown when I originally did the lowering springs.

The pitting of the bucket has absolutely nothing to do with the camber or alignment or sizing.

It has to do with the metalurgy of the CV buckets.

No matter how you cut it, spacers, BRAND NEW buckets from Honda, nor any type of alignment altering will EVER be a cure all.

TRUST me and take this to the bank...axle bucket swap is your best bet!
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by OneSilverS2k
I feel this issue has not been looked into enough.
It has by me over 6 years ago.
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