That's it man. Keep your cool, be nice, but firm. It is extremely important that you keep your cool and be professional or all will be lost. Be a pain in their ass till you get results.

 

Call all the local dealers and ask for the service manager and tell them you are looking to speak to the Honda district manager and see if one will help point you in the right direction.

Billman: Does hitting the Rev-limiter have similar effects/strain as over-reving?

I know a civic/gs-r swap owner who hits the rev-limit on a almost daily basis and the only problem that happened over time (2 yrs) was the rings on the pistons went to sh*t.

 

The rev limiter is there to *prevent* damage, dominate... The S is designed to rev to 9000 RPM (AP1, that is), and people drive it that way all the time.

That, of course, does not prevent mechanical overrev from a bad downshift.

 

I've actually had another problem with the motor that is documented. Vtec wouldn't engage throughout differant gears. I brought it in to get it checked out a couple months ago and all that was done was changing the MAP sensor. Could that have anything to do with weakening these parts? Is it even possible for Vtec not to engage? I've read about people saying that they didn't feel it engage but could hear it. I couldn't hear or feel it. I'm no where close to being mechanically inclined enough to understand exactly whats going on with that motor, and from the replies I've gotten from whoever I talked to from Honda neither are they.

 

It's sounding more and more like you were severely low on oil. If that's the case, VTEC won't engage. FYI.

 

Hmm... I've only gotten my oil changes at Ed Morse Honda, since I have the prepaid service thing. I've always made sure to get it changed regularly. How come they don't know that? They had no clue what was going on with that.

I've come to the conclusion that S2KI.com's under the hood section knows more than actual Honda Techs at the dealerships I go to.

 

^ No doubt, Mike. The VTEC controller is powered by oil pressure. There are two possibilities... Either you were very low on oil, or the engine temperature was below three bars on your display. Until the engine warms up, VTEC doesn't engage.

Well, third option is that the VTEC controller is busted (not likely).

 

How often were you topping off oil? You know this car drinks up to or over a quart per oil change, right?

 

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Yeah, I think that's where your problem was, Mike. The AP1 engines had an appetite for oil. You were probably way down in oil.