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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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In my manual (MY00) they do not mention to use a different diff oil during winter.
Spec = SAE 90 GL-5 (GL-6).
As Road Rage pointed out the LE-607 is SAE 90 and flows very good at low temps.

As soon as I can get my hands on some overhere I'm going to use it.
Winter - spring - summer - fall - etc, etc.


Currently using the Honda Marine SAE 90 GL-5 hypoid oil.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 02:01 AM
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Mobil 1 75w90 will be easy to find and does a great job, as others have mentioned.

Make sure you get it done on time so you don't miss English class.

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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 04:24 AM
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Mobil1 75-W90 in the silver bottle works great for me.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SpitfireS,Jun 7 2006, 02:10 AM
In my manual (MY00) they do not mention to use a different diff oil during winter.

As Road Rage pointed out the LE-607 is SAE 90 and flows very good at low temps.
No, it doesn't make mention about any seasonal variation in diff fluid, but .............

He also made mention (at some point) that he doesn't recommend the LE when the car is operated in climates like mine where we routinely get sub freezing temps. When he said "low temps", I believe he wasn't meaning near freezing temps for a whole season of driving.
Even though LE 607 is a 90 wt. gear oil, it is waaaay thicker than any other branded 90 wt. gear oil. Those who have used it will testify to this. It is almost a necessity to put the LE in a bucket of hot water before trying to get it out of the bottle.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SpitfireS,Jun 7 2006, 03:10 AM
In my manual (MY00) they do not mention to use a different diff oil during winter.
Spec = SAE 90 GL-5 (GL-6).
As Road Rage pointed out the LE-607 is SAE 90 and flows very good at low temps.
uhm, no.

road rage pointed out the EXACT OPPOSITE. LE607 is NOT to be used in cold weather....
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Road Rage pointed out a lot more

Road Rage Posted: Feb 24 2004, 03:31 AM
It (LE-607) has a pour point of -11degF, below which it will be extremely thick. So it is not for Arctic use for sure, but then, no 90w is
By comparison, the Amsoil has a pour point of about -46degF. By other comparison, Schaeffer's 90w bottoms out at 0degF.
Amsoil 75w90 tested out at about 350 Newtons (N) in my EP testing. Better than most 75w90's. A very good product. But LE has one more additive up its sleeve, and it's a dandy.

LE 607 tested out at over 1000 N!
It is a trade-off.
Pour point <-> protection.
Who's living in -11degF anyway....
Cold weather isnt Arctic.. is it?
Whats the standard defenition of "cold weather"?
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SpitfireS,Jun 7 2006, 05:10 PM
Whats the standard defenition of "cold weather"?
The point at which your nipples can cut cleanly through a 1/4" piece of glass
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SpitfireS,Jun 7 2006, 02:10 PM
Who's living in -11degF anyway....

-11*F is about -24*C. This is a fairly typical "really cold" night and day in Calgary. I have operated the S2000 on mornings where is was as cold as -38*C. That's getting pretty close to the same number in F.
Don't underestimate some of the "typical" operating conditions that some owners have, especially in Canada. We've also got a few people living in Achorage, Alaska running their cars in winter. There was one some years ago who used to share stories with me.
When you get your bottle of LE and see how well (or not well) it pours out of the bottle, you might want to ask yourself if it wouldn't be wise to drive sedately for a few of miles AFTER getting to VTEC temp, even on a "warmish" morning, before flogging it. I've seen really thick fluids in gear applications. It does "climb" the gears but it resists coating them.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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tinkfist Posted on Jun 8 2006, 12:15 AM
[QUOTE]QUOTE (SpitfireS @ Jun 7 2006, 05:10 PM)
Whats the standard defenition of "cold weather"?
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SpitfireS,Jun 7 2006, 03:49 PM
The diff is about half full with oil right?
Hmmm, not sure about it being 1/2 full. It might be a little more. I'm just thinking about where the fill hole comes to relative to the middle of the pinion shaft, which I sort of consider as about 1/2 way up. I typically overfill the diff with up to 100cc more by jacking the car up on an angle. I'm guessing the extra fluid will aid in removing more heat from the diff internals. When working this car hard or at highway speeds, during hot summer months, diff fluid temp is very critical (IMO). I have a diff temp monitor and the temps can get quite high the faster you cruise. I've also installed additional diff cooling fins. Since then, I've noticed that Spoon markets a weird looking diff casing for our car that resembles my larger fins. So somebody at Spoon must also think diff temp is important.

Insofar as using M1 75W90 all year round, what convinced me of it's effectiveness throughout all kinds of driving conditions was my oil analysis after a period of fairly vigorous driving. The lab indicated that the M1 protected very well and that there was ample life and protection left in that load of fluid. I'm sure that LE is also a very good fluid, but in my mind, Mobil 1 has passed my "test" and it's quite easy for me to obtain. The LE would have to be shipped cross border for me. There's less incentive for me to use it.
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