Clutch Options
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Clutch Options
Well, I think my clutch is finally going out. I bought my S 3 months ago with 80K on it, all stock. The clutch is still original, and it's slipping a small amount. I was in 4th yesterday at around 7k and it acted like it didn't want to pull anymore so I let out. I guess 85k is about where you'd expect to replace one anyway.
I think I'll go with a OE one, but also wouldn't mind some input from others with ACT or what not. I like a stiffer peddle than stock, but it's probably not going to see boost anytime soon so no real point in getting a upgraded one.
What's the exact clutch that Honda puts in it? I see several different exedys that claim to be the stock one, but I want the Exact one, used by Honda. I really don't care for exedy because of my prior experiences with them on my miata, but if that's what honda had in it ill get that one.
I think I'll go with a OE one, but also wouldn't mind some input from others with ACT or what not. I like a stiffer peddle than stock, but it's probably not going to see boost anytime soon so no real point in getting a upgraded one.
What's the exact clutch that Honda puts in it? I see several different exedys that claim to be the stock one, but I want the Exact one, used by Honda. I really don't care for exedy because of my prior experiences with them on my miata, but if that's what honda had in it ill get that one.
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all the OEM honda parts just buy them from a Honda dealer to make sure they are 100% Honda brand... ACT clutch get it from the cheapest place you find it lol
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OEM clutch disk - 22200-PCX-055 $110.65
Pilot bearing - 91006-PCX-008 $13.77
clutch release/throw out bearing 22810-PCY-003 $94.42
Total: $243.95
just on OEM parts..
ACT pressure plate - $442.28 {cheapest I found]
Grand Total is $686.23
if you're doing the job yourself...
Pilot bearing - 91006-PCX-008 $13.77
clutch release/throw out bearing 22810-PCY-003 $94.42
Total: $243.95
just on OEM parts..
ACT pressure plate - $442.28 {cheapest I found]
Grand Total is $686.23
if you're doing the job yourself...
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The ACT HD PP applies quite a bit more clamping force over the stock one. If you drive aggressively, this will give you better transfer of power. If you drive by slipping the clutch a lot, this will help (to some extent) to preserve the clutch parts and give a bit of longevity to the clutch. Now, you will get those who talk about "crank walk" and how the extra strong springs on the PP will pull the crankshaft excessively and cause premature wear of the thrust washer, however, there's more to what's going on in those cars that nobody seems to fully understand or want to talk about (like how boosting may contribute to the washer's failure, etc.) Even seasoned mechanics cannot agree to exactly what causes crank walk and the debate continues. If you are truly worried about it, then either keep completely stock or install a clutch/starter interlock defeat switch for peace of mind. This allows you to start the car without pushing the clutch down, which some say causes the most wear on the washer when a HD PP is in use. But the jury is still out on that one, too.
I highly doubt that any of the OEM clutch bits are made by Exedy so don't get sucked into that marketing hype. It's ACT that has taken OEM Honda clutch discs and reworked them for their kits. If you're going to stay stock and if the flywheel and/or PP can be refinished, then all you need is the clutch disc and TO bearing. But having said that, the bulk of the expense (or time if you're doing it yourself) is the work itself. So why not throw a little more money into it and get fresh flywheel and PP? Your stock one has lasted 85K. Do you really need the next one to last any longer?
I have an original 12 year old S2000. It's been boosted for 10 of those years and I'm running a lightweight flywheel, ACT HD PP and OEM disc. Just for fun and to show how easy it is to do, I installed that clutch/starter interlock defeat switch and I use it only for cold starts when it is known that it could take oil as long as 1 to 2 minutes to fall onto that thrust washer. I confess to being a bit superstitious in that regard because sound reasoning would say that even with my boosted configuration, the HD PP is not an issue.
I highly doubt that any of the OEM clutch bits are made by Exedy so don't get sucked into that marketing hype. It's ACT that has taken OEM Honda clutch discs and reworked them for their kits. If you're going to stay stock and if the flywheel and/or PP can be refinished, then all you need is the clutch disc and TO bearing. But having said that, the bulk of the expense (or time if you're doing it yourself) is the work itself. So why not throw a little more money into it and get fresh flywheel and PP? Your stock one has lasted 85K. Do you really need the next one to last any longer?
I have an original 12 year old S2000. It's been boosted for 10 of those years and I'm running a lightweight flywheel, ACT HD PP and OEM disc. Just for fun and to show how easy it is to do, I installed that clutch/starter interlock defeat switch and I use it only for cold starts when it is known that it could take oil as long as 1 to 2 minutes to fall onto that thrust washer. I confess to being a bit superstitious in that regard because sound reasoning would say that even with my boosted configuration, the HD PP is not an issue.
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The ACT HD PP applies quite a bit more clamping force over the stock one. If you drive aggressively, this will give you better transfer of power. If you drive by slipping the clutch a lot, this will help (to some extent) to preserve the clutch parts and give a bit of longevity to the clutch. Now, you will get those who talk about "crank walk" and how the extra strong springs on the PP will pull the crankshaft excessively and cause premature wear of the thrust washer, however, there's more to what's going on in those cars that nobody seems to fully understand or want to talk about (like how boosting may contribute to the washer's failure, etc.) Even seasoned mechanics cannot agree to exactly what causes crank walk and the debate continues. If you are truly worried about it, then either keep completely stock or install a clutch/starter interlock defeat switch for peace of mind. This allows you to start the car without pushing the clutch down, which some say causes the most wear on the washer when a HD PP is in use. But the jury is still out on that one, too.
I highly doubt that any of the OEM clutch bits are made by Exedy so don't get sucked into that marketing hype. It's ACT that has taken OEM Honda clutch discs and reworked them for their kits. If you're going to stay stock and if the flywheel and/or PP can be refinished, then all you need is the clutch disc and TO bearing. But having said that, the bulk of the expense (or time if you're doing it yourself) is the work itself. So why not throw a little more money into it and get fresh flywheel and PP? Your stock one has lasted 85K. Do you really need the next one to last any longer?
I have an original 12 year old S2000. It's been boosted for 10 of those years and I'm running a lightweight flywheel, ACT HD PP and OEM disc. Just for fun and to show how easy it is to do, I installed that clutch/starter interlock defeat switch and I use it only for cold starts when it is known that it could take oil as long as 1 to 2 minutes to fall onto that thrust washer. I confess to being a bit superstitious in that regard because sound reasoning would say that even with my boosted configuration, the HD PP is not an issue.
I highly doubt that any of the OEM clutch bits are made by Exedy so don't get sucked into that marketing hype. It's ACT that has taken OEM Honda clutch discs and reworked them for their kits. If you're going to stay stock and if the flywheel and/or PP can be refinished, then all you need is the clutch disc and TO bearing. But having said that, the bulk of the expense (or time if you're doing it yourself) is the work itself. So why not throw a little more money into it and get fresh flywheel and PP? Your stock one has lasted 85K. Do you really need the next one to last any longer?
I have an original 12 year old S2000. It's been boosted for 10 of those years and I'm running a lightweight flywheel, ACT HD PP and OEM disc. Just for fun and to show how easy it is to do, I installed that clutch/starter interlock defeat switch and I use it only for cold starts when it is known that it could take oil as long as 1 to 2 minutes to fall onto that thrust washer. I confess to being a bit superstitious in that regard because sound reasoning would say that even with my boosted configuration, the HD PP is not an issue.
Very informative thank you
I will go with that PP, but will skip the light weight flywheel, I dont want the noise I hear comes with them.
This car will see several track days and autox events, but doubt I'll boost it, unless I get a new daily
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Didn't we have this discussion just a couple of weeks ago?
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/952...ch-for-stock-s
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/952...ch-for-stock-s