Clutch slip after CDV Removal
#1
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Clutch slip after CDV Removal
So my slave was leaking and I figured I'd throw an AP1 in while I was doing it. I was getting the typical slip at redline shifts but felt great everywhere else.
Now I seem to get slip even mid range with a quick shift which as I understand it is due to the flywheel. However if I'm doing about 30mph and throw it in 6th to test the clutch I'm getting slip low down where I wasn't before. This doesn't seem to be a shift timing issue as Billman had found in the past to cause ap2 slip after cdv removal. So is there a way to tell if the disc is truly on its way out vs shift timing issue?
Now I seem to get slip even mid range with a quick shift which as I understand it is due to the flywheel. However if I'm doing about 30mph and throw it in 6th to test the clutch I'm getting slip low down where I wasn't before. This doesn't seem to be a shift timing issue as Billman had found in the past to cause ap2 slip after cdv removal. So is there a way to tell if the disc is truly on its way out vs shift timing issue?
#2
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If it wasn't slipping before the cdv removal, it is likely shift timing.
Try this: make sure you have completely released the throttle before you push the clutch pedal down at all. Do this as fast as you like. You'll find the RPM is lower at clutch engagement and it wont slip.
The CDV is there to allow the heaver 2.2 flywheel to decel before clutch engagement.
An AP1 flywheel is a great compliment to cdv removal.
Try this: make sure you have completely released the throttle before you push the clutch pedal down at all. Do this as fast as you like. You'll find the RPM is lower at clutch engagement and it wont slip.
The CDV is there to allow the heaver 2.2 flywheel to decel before clutch engagement.
An AP1 flywheel is a great compliment to cdv removal.
#4
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So it's slipping pretty bad if I try and put my foot down in a higher gear cruising, ~55 in 6th, ~35 in 5th etc. from my understanding this shouldn't be happen regardless of cdv or flywheel weight.
#6
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I've got about 3/4in of free play at the top.
I was 3 hours from home so I drove it pretty easy to get home. It seems to be whenever I press hard on the throttle it slips, otherwise it's good. If I'm light on the throttle i rev to redline no issue.
EDIT: I have ZERO Rod free-play, checked on my way to work this morning. I've got my fingers crossed thats the issue, going to fix it over lunch today.
I was 3 hours from home so I drove it pretty easy to get home. It seems to be whenever I press hard on the throttle it slips, otherwise it's good. If I'm light on the throttle i rev to redline no issue.
EDIT: I have ZERO Rod free-play, checked on my way to work this morning. I've got my fingers crossed thats the issue, going to fix it over lunch today.
#7
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So I adjusted the freeplay and it's better but definitely still slipping at heavy throttle input. Might just throw a clutch in this weekend, at least I'll know it's been done and have the lightened flywheel.
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There is a decent difference in resistance in the rod freeplay and clutch master cylinder freeplay. I don't recommend doing this if you're not familiar with adjusting clutch pedal freeplay but you can actually feel these two resistances by spinning the master cylinder rod clockwise. The second you hit a slight amount of resistance you've eliminated rod freeplay. If you keep going further you will be removing the master cylinder freeplay. Once clutch master cylinder freeplay is gone it will be incredibly difficult to spin the master cylinder rod. At this point you're releasing the clutch..
I'd only recommend removing the rod freeplay...
I'd only recommend removing the rod freeplay...
Last edited by Soviet; 04-25-2017 at 01:59 PM.