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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 05:39 AM
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I just wanted to see what are the thought of others. I have a MY00 with 29k on the ODO so the clutch hardware still works perfectly fine (aside from clutch buzz). While I know the clutch disc, pressure plate and the related bearings are not going to go bad with time, I am more concerned about the grease drying up within the assembly. I re-greased my shifter assembly this past weekend and after 22 years, most of the grease is dried up so I figured this is also the case with the clutch. As these cars age, i feel some of these items needs to be done but not sure if i am just being OCD.

Since my car is an early production car, the clutch have always been relatively heavy compared to other S2000s that I have driven. I believe this is normal from what I have read so but I also figured it's adding unnecessary force on the thrust bearings so I figured replacing the pressure plate, regreasing and getting rid of the clutch buzz is worth it.

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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 06:02 AM
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You're OCD -- but preventive maintenance isn't a bad thing. Quite a bit more work, though than greasing the shifter. And will be the same work later if or when the clutch actually fails. Years ago I bent a push rod on a big V8 engine. Shop called me and recommended that since the engine was partially apart I might want to just change the other 15 push rods too since the labor charge would not change -- Duh! If you do this replace all the parts with OEM.

Put the gearbox in neutral and release the clutch at traffic lights if you're worried about about thrust bearings but these rarely fail other than from real abuse.

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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 07:10 AM
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You're OCD -- but preventive maintenance isn't a bad thing. Quite a bit more work, though than greasing the shifter. And will be the same work later if or when the clutch actually fails. Years ago I bent a push rod on a big V8 engine. Shop called me and recommended that since the engine was partially apart I might want to just change the other 15 push rods too since the labor charge would not change -- Duh! If you do this replace all the parts with OEM.

Put the gearbox in neutral and release the clutch at traffic lights if you're worried about about thrust bearings but these rarely fail other than from real abuse.

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Rest assured that if I end up separating the trans, I will be replacing all the clutch hardware with OEM stuff at the same time. I think that should last me until I am too old to care. lol.

Yeah, I never keep the clutch engaged anyways unless I need to. I even disabled the clutch during start up after being paranoid on the horror stories that I have read on here. Likely blown out of proportions but it's cheap/free insurance, until I forget and start the car with it in gear!
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 08:59 AM
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If you feel that the pedal feel is bad due to dried up grease...just drop the trans and replace the bearing slide guide and grease.

The rest of it is probably totally fine.

Otherwise....just leave it alone until you have an actual issue.
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 11:22 AM
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If the clutch slides effortlessly without rough spots in the pedal and no squeaks, carry on. If you NEED something to maintain, check the clutch release rubber boot, replace if brittle/cracking.
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 05:32 AM
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Thanks for everyone’s feedback. I will leave it as until I encounter issues like all have suggested here. Now it’s time to track down that idle problem.

Thanks again.
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There's an "idle relearn" process but I've no clue how to do it 'cuz I've never needed it.

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There's an "idle relearn" process but I've no clue how to do it 'cuz I've never needed it.

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Isn't this just a matter of driving around in stop-&-go traffic for a half-hour or so? The ECU relearns the idle in that time.
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Originally Posted by Petah78
I just wanted to see what are the thought of others. I have a MY00 with 29k on the ODO so the clutch hardware still works perfectly fine (aside from clutch buzz). While I know the clutch disc, pressure plate and the related bearings are not going to go bad with time, I am more concerned about the grease drying up within the assembly. I re-greased my shifter assembly this past weekend and after 22 years, most of the grease is dried up so I figured this is also the case with the clutch. As these cars age, i feel some of these items needs to be done but not sure if i am just being OCD.

Since my car is an early production car, the clutch have always been relatively heavy compared to other S2000s that I have driven. I believe this is normal from what I have read so but I also figured it's adding unnecessary force on the thrust bearings so I figured replacing the pressure plate, regreasing and getting rid of the clutch buzz is worth it.

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29K mileage is very low for any Honda clutch. But, if you go for a rebuild use only OEM Honda parts. Knowledgeable, experienced S2000 mechanic is 75% of the battle.
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck S
There's an "idle relearn" process but I've no clue how to do it 'cuz I've never needed it.

-- Chuck
Yeah, i have done it. In short, the car is almost stalling out (low revs) at idle which seems to very common on this forum. However, it's pretty intermittent so I am not sure where to go yet. Thus far, I have cleaned the map, map passage in TB, taken apart and ensure the rotary valve was spinning freely and also did the idle relearn. Might try a new map sensor all together (fairly inexpensive at Honda).

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