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Complete Review/Guide: J's Engine Torque Damper

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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I think as long as ayou also use the larger lifting bolt hole behind the VTEC solenoid as well you would be fine, but personally I would just it the lifting hole and not risk the VTEC solenoid.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hecash,Jun 13 2005, 07:27 PM
I just replaced my motor mounts two days ago. I'm frankly amazed at how smooth the track clutch engages now. There's no motor rattle at all as there was before.
Did your motor mounts show any signs of damage? I know of 2 instances where the mount on the passenger side was completely broken in half when removed. However, they looked fine when bearing the load of the engine.

Glad to see your still having fun with this stuff Harry.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 04:47 AM
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i also have the j's etd and the heatshield...there is a slight modification for installing it..and the heatshield as well...when i first got it installed the heatshield kept hitting my temperature switch/line so i never had heat until i figured it out that it was the j's heatshield blocking it..but it was an easy fix..just a lil bend back aways from the line/switch then i had heat again haha...also the j's etd i couldn't really tell ya either if there is a huge difference...just maybe less engine jerking from shifting harder..maybe a lil less vibration too..but i could honestly tell ya there was barely no feel in feeling faster in performance wise whats so ever..but then again everyone has there own peference with these mods..its really up to u if u wanna buy it or not
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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Before I bought the J's ETD, i've heard many reviews and not one person said that this was a bad product. They all mostly said that even though it fitted like shiet, it was worth buying. Shifting was improved bla bla bla and is worth the hasle. But after installing this product, not only did I not get any performance gains(duh right?)...but my shifting didn't at all feel smoother or improved in any way. If there was an improvement it is soooo slight it dosn't warrent the amount spend on this product. I looks cool...and I suppose people that want to spice up their engine bay can dish out roughtly 280 dollas for the ETD and heatsheild combo...but people actually looking for something functional might want to spend their 280 somewhere else...
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by pantyraider,Jun 11 2005, 12:00 AM
I like that you gave your honest opinion on this, and not just rode the JDM bandwagon.


Thanks for writing the review.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Most of you guys do not have this product so please stop magazine/assuming or making guesses on this product. I have had one for 3 years now and its a ETD. Thats it. Nothing else and nothing more. Performance/HP gains? Are you serious? Please. The only reason I even bought this was because when you get higher mileage, (80% of you guys barely drive this car) wear and tear starts to show on your engine and it will eventually start to vibrate more. Thats on any car. The ETD is designed to eliminate/minimize that shake. The J's site also says it helps with engine stability at high rpm's when shifting. Yes it does this too. Not a crazy amount, but a small amount. Its basically a small shock. Yes, it does work in that aspect because thats what it was designed for. NOT to make power. Where do you guys get your information? I know for a fact that maybe 2 of you in this entire thread even have this product. If you dont own this product then please dont post anything negative because you have no experience. Bottom line. Plain and simple.
JDM bandwagon? I am not going to even start bashing on you again. You speak from absolutely no experience what so ever. So why should we listen to you?

So on to my next question, who from the ones posted above have more than 65,000 miles on their car?

As for the install? It took me less than an hour to install. Very simple and easy for the 00-01 AP1's.
The heatshield is worthless. Your better off using your OEM shield. Just run to Home Depot pick up the circular blade ($19) and use a drill ($49) and make the necessary measurements then cut it. Simple. I did this for a couple members in Hawaii and for my car as well.

I am not going to get into a debate over this because it has worked for me and hundreds of others with higher mileage S2k's. IMO its not just a bling part as most of you think.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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^ I can understand that as the mileage gets higher there is more wear and tear, and the ETD would prolly be more usefully then. The problem I have is before I bought this, I read alot of reviews on it and everyone was praising how much of an improvement they got from this simple install. The said shifting was improved etc... but I have not felt that effect on my car. Since my car is an 02, it probably has not seen the type of wear that would make a ETD effective (makes sense), but I don't understand how everyone else is praising this modification in their reviews? Alot of people said though the J's ETD and heatsheild fit like crap (and requires some modification of the fuse bracket) but if given the chance they would do this modification over again. I already read that there was improvement in shifting feel during upshifts, downshifts, and during cornering. But I havn't felt any noticeable difference. For something that is over 200 dollars...I really did expect it to actually make a difference in shifting feel.

As for the heatsheild...something like that should fit right with at least the OEM header and heat sheild without having to bang and hammer it into submission and then have the holes not line up.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Shadow_S2K,Jun 17 2005, 01:19 PM
^ I can understand that as the mileage gets higher there is more wear and tear, and the ETD would prolly be more usefully then. The problem I have is before I bought this, I read alot of reviews on it and everyone was praising how much of an improvement they got from this simple install. The said shifting was improved etc... but I have not felt that effect on my car. Since my car is an 02, it probably has not seen the type of wear that would make a ETD effective (makes sense), but I don't understand how everyone else is praising this modification in their reviews? Alot of people said though the J's ETD and heatsheild fit like crap (and requires some modification of the fuse bracket) but if given the chance they would do this modification over again. I already read that there was improvement in shifting feel during upshifts, downshifts, and during cornering. But I havn't felt any noticeable difference. For something that is over 200 dollars...I really did expect it to actually make a difference in shifting feel.

As for the heatsheild...something like that should fit right with at least the OEM header and heat sheild without having to bang and hammer it into submission and then have the holes not line up.
I see where your coming from. I have read it too (the high praises) but some people just dont listen when you try to explain from experience about a product. They assume its a great parts because its J's Racing or Spoon or Mugen or whatever. Not all of the parts from one manufacturer are supreme and not all of them work like they are said to work. We all know that . I know because I have spent thousands of dollars trying this and that and can tell you first hand if something is really worth the money or if its a waste of money .

It does minimize engine vibration/movement at high rpm's when shifting. But again minimal notices, not a night and day kinda comparison.

I also agree that the J's heatshield should fit fine for that kinda money but some of them do and some dont and thats 00-05.

Anyway my writeup on installation would/is probably totally different form Exody's experience.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Wow, I have to post my opinion, as well.

I also have the J's ETD, and I did the install myself on my '02. I also had an ETD on my Alfa Romeo track car, so I have been using these items for years.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND this item for track cars and cars that are driven fast on the street.

I found the install simple. I did not need to drill, or modify any holes. The only difficulty was reaching the #4 mounting bolt, and that was because I wasn't using the correct wrench. A long ratcheting box wrench worked easily.

It's true that the J's heatshield doesn't fit properly with the OEM heatshield, but I don't think pounding on it is the way to go. I made my own header heatshield in about 15 minutes from a piece of sheet aluminum, with layers of aluminum foil underneath, and it works every bit as good as the OEM shield.

The J's heatshield also went over a couple of AC lines, but that wasn't a problem, either. I just used a longer mounting bolt, and put an extra nut on it. One nut locks the bolt to the body, and the other nut holds down the shield, with the A/C line in-between. [I'll try to get a pic for you guys.] It was also a really simple solution, and it looks good.

I found a HUGE IMPROVEMENT in shifting quality. The average enthusiast might not appreciate the gains, but if you are into driving at or near the limit, IMO, this is a must have item!

If you don't notice the engine torquing effect and the instability of the engine/tranny combo before the install, then you probably won't be able to detect the improvement after the install.

There is a great difference when shifting while cornering near the limit of the tires, going over bumps while cornering/shifting, etc. The engine torquing effect can be enough to send you off the track/street in these situations.

If you want lightning-fast/smooth shifting, the ETD is the only way to go. If you do a search, you will find that most owners who have purchased this item DO notice an improvement.

This is my honest opinion. I don't sell these things, and I don't care if anyone else buys one.

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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ExOdy,Jun 10 2005, 11:35 PM
The only thing I was expecting based on advice offered by fellow s2ki member, s2x, was modifying the j's racing heatshield to fit properly.
i think you should ask your seller/dealer any questions you got before buying. i'm trying to help as much as i can.
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