Don't need them.

 

Don't need.

 

Don't need, but I put em back anyway. impact driver and a sledge hammer takes care of the most pesky rotor screws in seconds.

 

PIA to remove, but once removed, you will never want to remove them again. Leave the off.

 

If you ever get yourself in a situation where the impact and/or phillps bit & sledge doesn't work, the trick to getting those f'ers out is:

1. Use a small chisel (must be a chisel, not a screwdriver) and make a notch on the circumference of the screw.

2. now use the same chisel in your notch with a hammer and try to 'unscrew' the damn screw by hitting in the right direction, tangential to the circumference in the counterclockwise diirection.

you might have to do this several times, but it works, and it's way better than trying to use a drill and extractor.

 

or drill the heads off

 

Trust me, the chisel trick works way better and faster than any drilling.

 

a punch/chisel and hammer always works, and easier than having to start a drill on top of the phillips screw recess.

 

my old honda mechanic had a trick to getting these off, he could pull them off in less than a minute without any special tools. i didnt really think anything of it until he moved and the new mechanic had to use the chisel to get them out.

 

I only reuse them when I work on a Lotus, or Mercedes, or something where there are lug bolts instead of lug nuts. It;s a pain in the ass to get the bolt lined up thru the wheel, rotor, and hub when the rotor moves.