Downside to gears? 4.57 - 4.77?
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Originally Posted by HybridHatch88,Mar 16 2006, 03:40 PM
Basically, I am very happy with all of the mods. I have put on my S so far. I still always rear gears are the best bang for your buck. I guess the question is, does the 4.10 gear have any advantage over the 4.57-4.77 from a performance standpoint. My S gets me to work, when it's not doing that, it is at the drag strip or doing a highway run with an SRT-4. I just wonder what is better for tope end. Of course the 4.77 will run out faster, but how much faster will it get to it's top speed? I guess the best analogy I can use is this:
2 S2000s same power, equal drivers, one with a 4.10 gear and one with a 4.77 gear. Let's say they go from a 40 roll to about 130. At any point would the 4.10 gear car be able to pass the 4.77 gear car?
I know that there are alot of threads on this, and if my question has been answered in another thread please direct me to it. Thank you.
2 S2000s same power, equal drivers, one with a 4.10 gear and one with a 4.77 gear. Let's say they go from a 40 roll to about 130. At any point would the 4.10 gear car be able to pass the 4.77 gear car?
I know that there are alot of threads on this, and if my question has been answered in another thread please direct me to it. Thank you.
so yes, even from a 40-130 or even an 80-130 race, the geared car will win.
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Originally Posted by Emil St-Hilaire,Mar 16 2006, 03:56 PM
4.57 on an AP-1 will get you to 149 top speed,and through the quarter in 13.2's.
Is there a 4-5 shift in the 1/4 with 4.57's?
I have heard that there IS a 4-5 shift with 4.77's.
I have heard that there IS a 4-5 shift with 4.77's.
I dont know if 4.57 can do 13.2 in the track. If that were to be true, 4.77 should be able to hit high 12's
How about traction problems? I have a strong running NA car and have problems with wheelspin in 1 and 2 on some surfaces in the city quite often.. I would have thought it is worse with gears, or is it better? (BTW, I solved my traction problem by running my track tires but then I blew out the diff).
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I think that 4.57 is the best ratio you can get. With 4.77's, you will have to shift a lot and might not be comfortable on highway driving. It is more useful on the track. The 1/4 won't be any faster than the 4.57 it doesn't work like that because you will have to shift more. If you get something more than 4.77 there is a good chance that you will be slower than 4.57 ot 4.77.
If the S is your daily car, and if you also want it to be faster than stock, the best thing to get is 4.57 not 4.77...
If the S is your daily car, and if you also want it to be faster than stock, the best thing to get is 4.57 not 4.77...
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Mar 17 2006, 04:35 PM
As long as you START the race BEFORE the 105mph mark, the geared car will pull all the way to it's top speed.
so yes, even from a 40-130 or even an 80-130 race, the geared car will win.
so yes, even from a 40-130 or even an 80-130 race, the geared car will win.
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Originally Posted by clawhammer,Mar 16 2006, 02:57 PM
An AP1 at 9000 rpms in 4th gear with 4.57s is going exactly 105 mph.
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Here is the thing I dont really understand. I know with the 4.77 gears you do have to shift a bit more than the 4.57. But from what I read, the 4.57 could possibly do 13.3 on the quarter mile. The stock gears are 4.10 so between 4.10 and 4.57, there is quite a difference and in comparing those two, you could then say that the 4.57 has to shift much more than the stock and the stock should keep up cause of the extra shifting. The best stock time Ive seen people on the board post was around 13.8. So you can knock off .5 off the quarter-mile time with 4.57. But then when mentioning 4.77, many state that its similar to 4.57 since you have to shift more using the 4.77 gears and that the performance is not really noticible. So are 4.77 gears on the s2k to extreme? The extra shifting on the 4.77 to 4.57 is like comparing the extra shifting that you have to do comparing 4.10 to 4.57. As long as you can shift faster, you should be much quicker. Stating that, it should make sense that 4.77 gears in the quarter mile should get around 13.1 in the quarter mile with quick shifting.