S2000 Under The Hood S2000 Technical and Mechanical discussions.

Engine Oil Light on at Idle....

Thread Tools
 
Old Apr 29, 2012 | 02:02 PM
  #31  
zeroptzero's Avatar
Thread Starter
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 29,880
Likes: 5,427
From: Ontario Canada
Default

Originally Posted by Carbon Blue
sorry to hear jfusion, you have helped so many on this forum too! Hopefully you get things sorted quickly, it sounds like shaved pieces of rod bearing but im just throwing that out there. You havent installed any motor mounts have you with aftermarket hardware? I have seen a case of that in which the hardware busted the castings off the engine block and sent it into the oil.
THanks bud, yeah if I could get out of this with new rod bearings I'd be happier than a pig in dirt, I'd replace my oil pump while I'm in there too, I might consider going with an upgraded ap2 pump. I just hope I don't have to touch the main bearings.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2012 | 02:04 PM
  #32  
zeroptzero's Avatar
Thread Starter
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 29,880
Likes: 5,427
From: Ontario Canada
Default

Originally Posted by myflys2k
Sorry to hear Joey. Hope you get it all sorted out. Let me know if you need a hand at all. I could come out to help if needed.
Thanks Nick, I appreciate the offer of help. If the damage is restricted to rod bearings I might be okay, if it goes beyond that it might be a bit too much for me to handle. I'll keep your offer in mind, nice of you to suggest it. Thanks bud.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2012 | 02:31 PM
  #33  
starchland's Avatar
Member (Premium)
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,340
Likes: 110
Default

Was it mosport DDT I'm assuming. This doesnt make sense for me there's got to be some other factor leading to oil starvation
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2012 | 02:34 PM
  #34  
speedjunky01's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 910
Likes: 3
From: lakes region NH
Default

the oil pump hasn't failed the bearings are what create the pressure, the pump moves the volume

The pump is so ridiculously simple on a honda I have no way to even imagine the pump failing

when I built the motor for the civic I pulled the oem pump for the turbo build, checked specs after 250,000 miles, ported it by smoothing sharp edges a tad to improve flow and stuck it back in.

the oil pressure is low due to a bearing being spun or worn out enough to be out of OEM clearances resulting in a pressure drop, pop the pan off and check the rod bearings its not hard very easy to get to

posted before reading

cant just throw the new bearings in, they will just spin too plus the mains are junked up now as well

crank has to come out, be micro polished to remove the old bearings remains that were melted to the surface of the crank then the fresh bearings can be installed. you may need to play with different then OEM color bearings to get proper clearances.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2012 | 03:34 PM
  #35  
zeroptzero's Avatar
Thread Starter
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 29,880
Likes: 5,427
From: Ontario Canada
Default

Originally Posted by starchland
Was it mosport DDT I'm assuming. This doesnt make sense for me there's got to be some other factor leading to oil starvation
No the large track - international ?.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2012 | 03:38 PM
  #36  
zeroptzero's Avatar
Thread Starter
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 29,880
Likes: 5,427
From: Ontario Canada
Default

Originally Posted by speedjunky01
the oil pump hasn't failed the bearings are what create the pressure, the pump moves the volume

The pump is so ridiculously simple on a honda I have no way to even imagine the pump failing

when I built the motor for the civic I pulled the oem pump for the turbo build, checked specs after 250,000 miles, ported it by smoothing sharp edges a tad to improve flow and stuck it back in.

the oil pressure is low due to a bearing being spun or worn out enough to be out of OEM clearances resulting in a pressure drop, pop the pan off and check the rod bearings its not hard very easy to get to

posted before reading

cant just throw the new bearings in, they will just spin too plus the mains are junked up now as well

crank has to come out, be micro polished to remove the old bearings remains that were melted to the surface of the crank then the fresh bearings can be installed. you may need to play with different then OEM color bearings to get proper clearances.
Thanks for the reply, while I have the engine apart I'm going to install an ap2 oil pump they are an upgraded part, ap1 oil pumps flow less oil, mine may not be junk but I might as well upgrade it while I am in there.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2012 | 04:02 PM
  #37  
davidc1's Avatar
15 Year Member
Photogenic
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,689
Likes: 21
Default

Originally Posted by JFUSION
Originally Posted by speedjunky01' timestamp='1335738861' post='21653750
the oil pump hasn't failed the bearings are what create the pressure, the pump moves the volume

The pump is so ridiculously simple on a honda I have no way to even imagine the pump failing

when I built the motor for the civic I pulled the oem pump for the turbo build, checked specs after 250,000 miles, ported it by smoothing sharp edges a tad to improve flow and stuck it back in.

the oil pressure is low due to a bearing being spun or worn out enough to be out of OEM clearances resulting in a pressure drop, pop the pan off and check the rod bearings its not hard very easy to get to

posted before reading

cant just throw the new bearings in, they will just spin too plus the mains are junked up now as well

crank has to come out, be micro polished to remove the old bearings remains that were melted to the surface of the crank then the fresh bearings can be installed. you may need to play with different then OEM color bearings to get proper clearances.
Thanks for the reply, while I have the engine apart I'm going to install an ap2 oil pump they are an upgraded part, ap1 oil pumps flow less oil, mine may not be junk but I might as well upgrade it while I am in there.

I would also of course do the AP2 retainers....

Reply
Old Apr 29, 2012 | 04:39 PM
  #38  
starchland's Avatar
Member (Premium)
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,340
Likes: 110
Default

Originally Posted by JFUSION
Originally Posted by starchland' timestamp='1335738701' post='21653739
Was it mosport DDT I'm assuming. This doesnt make sense for me there's got to be some other factor leading to oil starvation
No the large track - international ?.
I guess that changes everything then. What is your gut feeling?
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2012 | 04:41 PM
  #39  
davidc1's Avatar
15 Year Member
Photogenic
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,689
Likes: 21
Default

Consider the clutch if needed...
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2012 | 04:49 PM
  #40  
zeroptzero's Avatar
Thread Starter
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 29,880
Likes: 5,427
From: Ontario Canada
Default

Originally Posted by starchland
Originally Posted by JFUSION' timestamp='1335742497' post='21653863
[quote name='starchland' timestamp='1335738701' post='21653739']
Was it mosport DDT I'm assuming. This doesnt make sense for me there's got to be some other factor leading to oil starvation
No the large track - international ?.
I guess that changes everything then. What is your gut feeling?
[/quote]

I am baffled why the bearings went to hell on a short liesurely drive with no warning when the car was running like mint and the fluids were perfect. Something definitely wore on my track day last fall but there were no warning signs and the damage showed up at a very odd time later downt the road. I am pretty sure I had some oil starvation at Mosport but I can't figure out why the car went to crap this weekend.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:07 AM.