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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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I see from your sig that your badboy's ready to go in Wes. How long before she's running? Sticking with the emanage, or are you gonna switch to AEM?

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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 11:07 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Malu59RT
I see from your sig that your badboy's ready to go in Wes.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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Out of curiosity, how much driving did you get in on the eManage before everything let go? I'm just curious because my daily driving has hiccups at different points on different days. It
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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The car was tuned at least 3 different times. So, I got a good amount of driving done with the eManage. I didn't really encounter that many drivability issues. At first, before I had injectors and instead had the FMU, I had crappy driving anytime I downshifted and floored it. Once we switched to the injectors (no FMU) and got on the injector map and no longer were using the air flow map for WOT that problem went away. Once I took the car to Jason the only time I really experienced any drivability issues was during our street tuning. Each time we found a problem we tuned it out. Jason is very good at being able to tell what is going on. When I felt that the car was too rich he might correct me and tell me that too much timing was being taken out, etc. From my experience, after the first few times that Jason tuned the car (and this does not include the final tuning where I only drove the car for 3 hours afterwards) I really didn't have any drivability issues. I drove the car for a good 2-3 weeks. Nick also commented to me many times that the daily drivability had no problems at all using my maps. He only fine-tuned some of the WOT stuff.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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hey wesmaster.. how do you like the emanage... i was going to get it for my car...t3/t4'd cavalier(runs high 13's) but then I decided it wasnt worth all that extra money getting hte idfferent harnesses and everything... so i went w/ the safc2 and i love it... 600cc injectors?? damn how much psi are u guys running?? i'm only running 8psi and I only need 330cc injectors....
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Ragingazn
hey wesmaster.. how do you like the emanage...
The eManage is really nice but the only real reason that so many of us S2000 owners are using it is because there is no Hondata for our car. I don't know what other options you have for your Cavalier, other than you mentioned the S-AFC, so I can't really say how the eManage ranks compared to your other options. Compared to an S-AFC the eManage is much better. The simply fact that when comparing comparable features (fuel adjustment via MAP sensor voltage) the eManage uses a 16x16 map which allows for tuning accross all of the throttle positions, where the S-AFC is simply a WOT / non-WOT map. The eManage can do so much more than just MAP sensor voltage modification, and that's where most of the S2000s find the pleasure in using the eManage. Injector control, igniting timing, VTEC control, etc all add to a nice round package that we can't get elsewhere.

As for boost, I was most recently running 11 psi and made 320 whp. My built short block is going in the car this week and the sky is just about the limit. Chris Barnes made 468 whp on the same block (different turbo / engine management / head setup), the block can handle that kind of power. With the same turbo kit I have Chris previously made 400 whp on 19 psi. My only limitation will be my injectors / engine management, and the efficiency of my turbo / head setup. The eManage documentation says that it can only control injectors up to 50% larger than stock, so 540 would be the max. Fperra says the 600's work fine so I'm willing to try the 550's out and see how it does. With 550's I should be able to make 350-400 whp. I'm going to leave it up to my tuner to see how the car does. I should have some results in 2 weeks.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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Wes, you said Nick didn't have any problems other than fixing some WOT conditions. When I talked to Nick, he said he was constantly changing the maps (Everyday). That was what I was thinking because I knew that the ecu was learning my mods.

I'll give you a real good example that happened to me today:
Coming back from school, I was stuck in heavy traffic mainly stop and go at speeds of less than 15 mph. The longer I sat in traffic, the more the car bogged and choked and one of the chances I got for WOT, the car fell flat on it's face, almost stalling out at 2000 rpm during a lane change. After about 35 min when traffic finally let up, I turned the car off, restarted it, and took the car to 9,000 rpm full boost. My problem areas from before (mainly an off-idle WOT pull) was a lot better. I'm going to see if I can purchase a wideband O2 and figure out what's going on. $800 and 14 hours of tuning, and I'm still not happy with the car.

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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 07:32 PM
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I just don't think that any speculation is good right now since you're running a turbo that is smoking. If the turbo is producing smoke from oil, then that smokey air is probably not just going out the exhaust but also to the intake. Smokey air from oil is not exactly the best kind of air for the car to be breathing. Until the intermittent smoking is fixed I don't think the source for intermittent bogging can be sought out.

As for Nick's car, I understood that he only modified WOT driving. I can only say what he told me.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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wow!!! I thought honda engines suck... lol j/p.... Its exciting seeing people put out this much hp on a 2.0 engine. Oh safc emange and all of those others are universal... just gotta know electrical things
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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Well, here's the latest update. At triple digit speeds, the steering wheel is oscillating left and right, and the car feels like it's driving all over the lane. Is this possibly a tire out of round, bad balancing, or bad allignment? I'd like to get it fixed, but can't afford to fix things one at a time and keep guessing wrong.

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