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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RacerXI
Check out E-manage Ultimate. Without a "deal", it's by far the cheaper in the list above.
Looks good, and found some for a bit more than flash pro. Looked up some dyno stuff and seems with some bolt ons and a tune on the e-manage you can get a few more whp, and saw a flash pro review with headers, exhaust, and intake with about the same whp gain. Seems like e-manage would be the best route for some power gains.

Anyone know if you can adjust vtec with emanage? That's the main reason I've been looking into tuning. Power gains are too much for the money spent, I just really want to change the midrange and get some power, so figured something like flash pro that could adjust when vtec cross over happened would be best.
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mostdope818
Originally Posted by stevenw' timestamp='1367297053' post='22508810
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I was under the impression that putting an 03 ECU into an 04-05 was a straightforward way to raise redline, but not changing VTEC crossover. Raising the redline 500 shifts the gear changes a bit to better be in the power band.

No one ever made a modifiable ECU replacement for 04-05s, so there are no good other solutions.
Wouldn't raising redline in the f22c start hitting valves? I remember reading something saying that since the displacement was bigger and the stroke was further, they limited it to 8k to prevent valves being damaged...but correct me if i'm wrong, i'm not sure if i'm remembering this correctly
I remember reading something like that...exact number for stock is 8200 redline no?
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Again, if i remember correctly limiter is at 8000 and fuel cut off is 8200.
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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theres plenty of people who run AP1 ECU's on F22's and rev to 9...i wouldnt advise it, but it has been done
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by S2KIrishman
theres plenty of people who run AP1 ECU's on F22's and rev to 9...i wouldnt advise it, but it has been done
Can you run a 06+ ecu on a 04 or 05? Seems like the general consensus around the forums is that you'd be better off learning to drive better and suspension rather than spending that money on power mods since you wont get much unless you go FI
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 09:36 PM
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Holy mis-information thread batman!

Companies in Japan sell/sold replacement ECUs for 00-05 models which are essentially hacked and reflashed versions of the OEM ECU designed to work with various selections of parts.

K-Pro seems to be the best option for older models, unless you live in Japan.
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stevenw
Originally Posted by S2KIrishman' timestamp='1367299401' post='22508863
theres plenty of people who run AP1 ECU's on F22's and rev to 9...i wouldnt advise it, but it has been done
Can you run a 06+ ecu on a 04 or 05?
nope
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/759...time-vs-k-pro/

this might help you out a bit.
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by stevenw
Wouldn't raising redline in the f22c start hitting valves? I remember reading something saying that since the displacement was bigger and the stroke was further, they limited it to 8k to prevent valves being damaged...but correct me if i'm wrong, i'm not sure if i'm remembering this correctly
The valvetrain is MORE capable in AP@'s than in AP1's. Retainers are stronger, etc. It's a common upgrade to change ap1 vales/retainers to ap2 components. This means there is 0 chance of valve to piston contact in ap2's at LEAST to 9k. If I remember correctly, billman said valve to piston contact starts around 10500 on stock part. THe real issue with running that rpm on an f22c is the piston speed. The distance traveled of the piston is greater meaning more stress at the same rpms (hence they lowered the rpm). The true equivalent physically is around 8500, which is what people often raise the redline to, however you can run 9k for short periods, but make no mistake you are drastically shortening your engine life doing so.


Originally Posted by andrewhake
Holy mis-information thread batman!

Companies in Japan sell/sold replacement ECUs for 00-05 models which are essentially hacked and reflashed versions of the OEM ECU designed to work with various selections of parts.

K-Pro seems to be the best option for older models, unless you live in Japan.
JDM ecu's are different from USDM. They all used flash memory, at least that's what I thought.
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by s2kreeper
Originally Posted by stevenw' timestamp='1367297053' post='22508810
Wouldn't raising redline in the f22c start hitting valves? I remember reading something saying that since the displacement was bigger and the stroke was further, they limited it to 8k to prevent valves being damaged...but correct me if i'm wrong, i'm not sure if i'm remembering this correctly
The valvetrain is MORE capable in AP@'s than in AP1's. Retainers are stronger, etc. It's a common upgrade to change ap1 vales/retainers to ap2 components. This means there is 0 chance of valve to piston contact in ap2's at LEAST to 9k. If I remember correctly, billman said valve to piston contact starts around 10500 on stock part. THe real issue with running that rpm on an f22c is the piston speed. The distance traveled of the piston is greater meaning more stress at the same rpms (hence they lowered the rpm). The true equivalent physically is around 8500, which is what people often raise the redline to, however you can run 9k for short periods, but make no mistake you are drastically shortening your engine life doing so.


Originally Posted by andrewhake
Holy mis-information thread batman!

Companies in Japan sell/sold replacement ECUs for 00-05 models which are essentially hacked and reflashed versions of the OEM ECU designed to work with various selections of parts.

K-Pro seems to be the best option for older models, unless you live in Japan.
JDM ecu's are different from USDM. They all used flash memory, at least that's what I thought.
How would you raise redline from 8k to 8500? Wouldn't you have to still buy a stand alone ECU? Since swapping a 03 would make redline at 9k and not be able to change since they're set in stone?
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by stevenw
How would you raise redline from 8k to 8500? Wouldn't you have to still buy a stand alone ECU? Since swapping a 03 would make redline at 9k and not be able to change since they're set in stone?
Yep. Stand alone is better than flashpro any ways in terms of extracting the most. It's just expensive, but there are plenty of awesome plug and play ones out there.
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