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Old May 26, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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OK so the eManage will not control timing with any coil on plug architecture. What about subbing a set of GM coils and putting plug wires on it?
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Old May 26, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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Good question, but this seems more time consuming and pricey than actually utilizing perhaps a J&S knock sensor that can retard timing per cylinder when it detects knock. I am unsure if they have an application for the s2k but its very possible. This coupled with an emanage could work great
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Old May 26, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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I have a mugen exhaust and do not plan to take it off. Ultimate racing made a 2 way downpipe that would let me keep the mugen exhaust while running a turbo setup. What do you think about this?

http://www.ultimate-racing.com/Products/El...wnPipe-US.shtml
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Old May 26, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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I am unfamiliar with the mugen exhaust and its ID dimensions or how restrictive it is. From the looks of the UR 2 way down pipe it looks very clever. Theoreticaly it should work great since essentially you are running an open downpipe that creates minimal backpressure and thats great for turbo apps
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Old May 27, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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Terry the coils and wires are not time consuming and not really that pricey. GM coils are cheap, I don't know what wires you would use, but this is the same set up that Electromotive uses.

I have the J&S which is currently uninstalled and I am almost positive it will not pull timing from individual cylinders, but from all at once.

Pulling a cylinder at a time would seem to require 4 knock sensors and the J&S only utilizes one. I will pull the manual out tonight and confirm.

The problem with using the J&S as anything but a safeguard is that it pulls too much timing, or at least that is the most common complaint on other platforms. It is meant to be a safeguard, not your prime timing retard or control.

Do you use the Profec boost controller to manage the eManage? If not why not? Being able to manage the map from inside the car without a computer would seem to be a big plus.

You mentioned that the maps you are making wouldn't work on another turbo. Forgive me for my ignorance, but as far as the boost goes doesn't it simply read boost, regardless of rpm, and enrichens to match?

I know you said it doesn't have a temp sensor which could be a very big knock issue with our CR, but has anyone figured out a way to integrate a temp sensor?

The Dodge SRT 4 utilizes a temp sensor on the IC, when the temps exceed X coming out of the IC it cuts boost. Very cool concept, I wonder if there is a boost sensor that could utilize this feature and in a way give us back a temp compensation.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 08:16 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by terry@spool
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Old May 27, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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I have the J&S which is currently uninstalled and I am almost positive it will not pull timing from individual cylinders, but from all at once. Pulling a cylinder at a time would seem to require 4 knock sensors and the J&S only utilizes one. I will pull the manual out tonight and confirm.

The problem with using the J&S as anything but a safeguard is that it pulls too much timing, or at least that is the most common complaint on other platforms. It is meant to be a safeguard, not your prime timing retard or control.
Ahh interesting Could you find out if it has the capabilities to retard per cylinder.
Do you use the Profec boost controller to manage the eManage? If not why not? Being able to manage the map from inside the car without a computer would seem to be a big plus.
We do not use the e0-1 because the labtop does the job and is easier to manipulate than the remote, however we could easily install one and use, we just chose not to do so.
You mentioned that the maps you are making wouldn't work on another turbo. Forgive me for my ignorance, but as far as the boost goes doesn't it simply read boost, regardless of rpm, and enrichens to match?
Yes because you are adding fuel per rpm and map signal. So if a particular turbo displays quicker boost onset compared to another, the fuel requirments have changed and the turbo with quicker boost onset will require more fuel in the lower rpm range and vice versa. A larger turbo vs a smaller turbo at a constant boost level.....lets say 6psi will require more fuel at 6 psi because of the higher cfm. One could get away with a slightly bigger or smaller turbo, its just that it would not be the optimum situation.

The Dodge SRT 4 utilizes a temp sensor on the IC, when the temps exceed X coming out of the IC it cuts boost. Very cool concept, I wonder if there is a boost sensor that could utilize this feature and in a way give us back a temp compensation.
Yes very cool on Dodges part
I am unware of a boost sensitive boost controller that would retard boost, I am pretty sure it does not exist....but I could be wrong
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Old May 27, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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So the cat HAS to be removed? If not has the set up been tested with the cat? Was the restirction in the stock exhaust piping (only 2 1/2 inch), in the resionator, the cat, or mufflers? Stock exhaust looks pretty damn straight, I don't see where bending would cause a restriction (Now I had an 88 Camaro, you want to talk about restiction in the exhaust!).
You can utilize the cat but turbos love minimal back pressure in regards to spool up and power output. And after 7k a 2.5 inch exhaust is just not cutting it.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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I really don't want to get rid of my Full Ti JIC exhaust that I just got. I really like it.

What about test pipe and 2.5 inch exhaust?
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Old May 27, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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I would imagine that you would have no problems
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