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Old Aug 27, 2017 | 07:45 PM
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Unhappy hard to shift from neutral

no power shifts normal.. with power it sometimes wont jump in for me without force.... sometimes does not jump in at all.... most of the time shifts like butter
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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Doompegasus
no power shifts normal.. with power it sometimes wont jump in for me without force.... sometimes does not jump in at all.... most of the time shifts like butter
Are "power shifts" = shifting without the clutch? You do this from neutral to first? And don't kill the engine and get a BIG crunch? To quote Kipling, "You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din."

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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by windhund116
Are "power shifts" = shifting without the clutch? You do this from neutral to first? And don't kill the engine and get a BIG crunch? To quote Kipling, "You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din."

power shifts is with the car on

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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Doompegasus
no power shifts normal.. with power it sometimes wont jump in for me without force.... sometimes does not jump in at all.... most of the time shifts like butter
no power, shifts normal. Commas are important.
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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 10:06 AM
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Sounds like a damaged clutch disc, specifically a broke spring retaining cage.
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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 12:32 PM
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My car started doing that, it got worse and worse. Sometimes it would be ok, sometimes it wouldn't shift at all.

It was exactly what Billman is saying. Broke a spring on the crappy exedy type disk the po had installed. The spring would sometimes jam the clutch up so it wouldn't fully release. Eventually it failed completely when the spring came loose and jammed things permanently. Clutch would not release at all.

Fortunately mine failed in the driveway!

To fix this right you must use a genuine Honda disk. NOT a disk made by some other vendor and called 'oem'. Its not. Use a Honda disk.

Also, if you have a shop do this, make sure they read and follow the Honda manual on what to grease, and what grease to use (Honda urea grease). Likely the shop will be like ' don't worry kid, we got this'. If they do, then run away, 'cause no they don't got this. They are assuming their experiences doing many other clutch jobs will suffice. If they don't follow the manual, and grease what needs greasing, your clutch will soon start giving you problems and it will shift very notchy. The splines will get rusty and disk won't slide smoothly.

Find a shop willing to read and follow instructions. If thats even possible. Best to diy, so you know its right.

Or ask your local forum where to go
If you are anywhere near NorthEast ISA, bring it to Billman...
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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 01:22 PM
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+1 on what billman said

sounds similar to what i had earlier and the fault was spring popped out of the clutch disc
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
Also, if you have a shop do this, make sure they read and follow the Honda manual on what to grease, and what grease to use (Honda urea grease). Likely the shop will be like ' don't worry kid, we got this'. If they do, then run away, 'cause no they don't got this. They are assuming their experiences doing many other clutch jobs will suffice. If they don't follow the manual, and grease what needs greasing, your clutch will soon start giving you problems and it will shift very notchy. The splines will get rusty and disk won't slide smoothly.

Find a shop willing to read and follow instructions. If thats even possible. Best to diy, so you know its right.
If you have a shop do it (with your own oem/genuine Honda parts).. a good idea to, and you could also order, the Urea grease prior to install, and grease up the inner/inside of the TOB and splines yourself, before you give them your car & parts. Just to make sure they don't forget to grease it up.

Maybe it's a good idea to give them a specific Checklist of what exactly needs to be greased up with Urea, so they don't forget.
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 10:52 AM
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I ordered that grease last week from the dealer for my short shifter. It's still not here!
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jah2000
If you have a shop do it (with your own oem/genuine Honda parts).. a good idea to, and you could also order, the Urea grease prior to install, and grease up the inner/inside of the TOB and splines yourself, before you give them your car & parts. Just to make sure they don't forget to grease it up.

Maybe it's a good idea to give them a specific Checklist of what exactly needs to be greased up with Urea, so they don't forget.
Not a bad idea!
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