Help! Stumbling at Idle
yanked the plugs,they look like this. replaced them w/ new plugs. car still ran bad. no ammount of map whack helped

unscrewed the o2 sensor, it looks like this. this is bad, right?
unscrewed the o2 sensor, it looks like this. this is bad, right?
Originally Posted by eepr5,May 17 2006, 07:36 AM
btw, read the listing for the bosch 02 sensor and it said replace every 60K. since i think this is original, guess it probably needs replaced.
Have you tried using OEM plugs? Can you be sure that those Bosch plugs are the right ones?
The stock O2 sensor should last well past 100K miles. BTW, which O2 sensor is that? Primary or secondary?
thats the primary, right in front of the cat, on the header.
the bosch plugs are the best I can get short notice. I'm an hour away from the closest dealer, so OEM isn't easy.
I guess its about time I found a shop to take it to. this is starting to get beyond what I feel confident messing with.
the bosch plugs are the best I can get short notice. I'm an hour away from the closest dealer, so OEM isn't easy.
I guess its about time I found a shop to take it to. this is starting to get beyond what I feel confident messing with.
Originally Posted by eepr5,May 17 2006, 09:09 AM
thats the primary, right in front of the cat, on the header.
the bosch plugs are the best I can get short notice. I'm an hour away from the closest dealer, so OEM isn't easy.
I guess its about time I found a shop to take it to. this is starting to get beyond what I feel confident messing with.
the bosch plugs are the best I can get short notice. I'm an hour away from the closest dealer, so OEM isn't easy.
I guess its about time I found a shop to take it to. this is starting to get beyond what I feel confident messing with.
Aside from that, those plugs and sensor are terrible looking. As xviper said, something major is going on, and we can only guess at the problem. Guessing is not going to get you anywhere.
I suggest you take the car into a trusted honda dealership, rather than continuing to let a bad situation become worse.
I would buy a new map sensor with the updated zip tie for peice of mind.
I would examine and make sure the wiring harness going into the ECM and all other sensor wiring has not been tampered with. I know you said the previous owner put an exhaust and intake on the car, he might of also had a VAFC installed at some point.
Check out your valvetrain, or have someone check and see if there are any damanged parts or tolerances that need to be adjusted. A trip to the dealer may be in your future.
I would examine and make sure the wiring harness going into the ECM and all other sensor wiring has not been tampered with. I know you said the previous owner put an exhaust and intake on the car, he might of also had a VAFC installed at some point.
Check out your valvetrain, or have someone check and see if there are any damanged parts or tolerances that need to be adjusted. A trip to the dealer may be in your future.
The plugs and O2 sensor look really bad. I would try decarbonizing the combustion chambers and then replace the plugs and O2 before even looking at replacing the MAP sensor. With plugs and O2 sensor look like that, no new MAP sensor will help the situation.



