Ok....please someone enlighten me on the benefits of lightweight lugs vs. what is normal lugs (OEM lugs)?

I don't understand why people are interested in getting $89 (Mugen) sets all the way up to $160 (Spoon) sets. Is there that much significant weight loss at the wheel? If lightening the lugs is done by reducing mass, doesn't it also weaken the structural rigidity of the lug?

Baffled?

 

For some reason, despite using nonseize paste and torquing the Spoon lugs, the lugs tended to occasionally require me to stand on a 20" 30 year old beam torque wrench I never use for torquing just to get the leverage to loosen the lug. Never broke any lugs or bolts, thankfully, but did 'break' the alloy socket since the inner liner came loose from the outer steel in all the torque.

I think this shows the strength of the lightweight lug, but also perhaps a drawback that may be unique to the Spoon.

 

luder94,

i am with you on this one.. why not just use the $ for the lugs and go get a membership at a gym and go loose some weight.. i think it would be a better choice.
but you know some people just want to spend $ and make their car look different.

wheels locks seems like a better investment.

 

The Mugen, Rays, and Kyougen are all wheel locks in essence as one or all of the lugs require a special tool. The Spoons are not.

I've posted this before but I will say it again, the whole gym membership thing is ludicrous. How much does it cost to join a gym. $300 per year? Add on the cost of travel to and from the gym. The cost of sneakers, shorts, socks, t-shirts. You will be needing more of them since you are wearing and hopefully washing them more. Not to mention your time, how about the commitment it takes to go everyday and maintain the weight loss. Most folks join, use for a couple of months and never go back. How about the fact that muscle weighs more folks. So tell me how you lose weight there? Is there an advantage to using the lightweight lugs? Yes but very very minimal. Also, remember some aftermarket wheels require you to use them though. Do you want your car to be different? Why not?

Just so we are clear, I go to the gym 3-4 times a week. Just saying that comparison doesn't hold in the real world.

Also I agree with Prolene the lugs are very strong.

 

Many of the aftermarket wheels require the conical lug nuts over the factory spherical design. Are there any cheaper conical lug nuts available??

 

I will be dyno'ing my Spoon lugs soon, I will post the results. <joking> I went with Spoon lugs simply because I powdercoated the stock rims, and I don't think the stock lugs go well with the black rims, so I got the gray Spoon lugs.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prolene
[B]For some reason, despite using nonseize paste and torquing the Spoon lugs, the lugs tended to occasionally require me to stand on a 20" 30 year old beam torque wrench I never use for torquing just to get the leverage to loosen the lug.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by j2k
[B]

Were you using the spoon lugs with the factory wheels?

 

It' benefits are three fold:

*they are available in colors to match the car/wheels/owner
*some are available with a locking unit (VOLK, Kyos, Gorilla, McGuards, and more)
*less unsprung weight

For me it's all about the rotational (unsprung) weight and looks. However, FYI, I have a set of VOLK nuts that I weighed in comparison to the stock Integra Type R nuts and netted a total savings of 12.3 grams per lug nut (the measurements were taken on a digital mini scale measuring to the nearest tenths). Given that there are a total of 20 lugnuts, total savings yields 246 grams. Roughly, a 1/2 pound (.54 to be exact) savings of unsprung weight over the stock lugs.

Is it worth it? Well, for me it was because I bought it directly from VOLK when I was in Japan, but at 120 USD, i would have to reconsider.

BTW, there are 2 different versions of VOLK lugs, make sure you get the one for Hondas.

 

How can you tell they're designed for Honda's? Does it say so on the package? What's the differences anyway? I just bought some from R&D Motorsports, hopefully they gave me the right version. Thanks!