Low Compression Test Results
I just finished doing a compression test and the results are relatively consistent but very low.
Cylinder #1: ~160psi Cylinder #2: ~150psi Cylinder #3: ~147psi Cylinder #4: ~156psi https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...2fc9c7d4d7.jpg Cylinder #1 https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...132edc37e4.jpg Cylinder #2 https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...4c432506aa.jpg Cylinder #3 https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...41f832bf44.jpg Cylinder #4 I read in a few posts here that you should expect the range to be around 200-240psi but that consistency was more important. Is there any kind of leak that would lower overall pressure? Should I be concerned? I have the tools to do a leak-down test as well and will likely be doing that this upcoming Tuesday if the weather permits. Additionally, I bought this car used a few years ago and just recently decided to start fixing everything wrong with it. I've done regular maintenance to it, but there are some issues I've known about but was not in a position to either fix myself or have fixed professionally. With that said, I just recently noticed this: https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...1ec12c0bb8.jpg Engine It looks like there is a leak coming from the bolt that holds the idle gear. I'm going to order the O-Ring to replace and tighten it to 36ft./lb., but in the meantime do you think that may be a cause for the low pressure? I also noticed that the oil drain valve is leaking (not sure when that started) so I'm going to tighten that as well (I assume to 29ft./lb. like the OEM drain bolt?). The MAP sensor likely needs to be replaced as well (whacking was not effective, but I'm going to clean the IAC valve first to make sure), would that cause issues with pressure? Lastly, as I did the test I noticed that while the engine was cranking, there was a rather loud noise and smoke/vapor coming from the engine... is this normal? I would assume that it is not. Thanks for the help. |
You should have also read on here not to use a Harbor Freight compression tester. They just don't work. At least not for high compression engines like ours.
I like HF. I buy a lot of tools there. Most of their stuff is decent. Some of it is excellent. Some of it is total junk. Their compression tester is at or near the junk category. Rent a gauge from a place like Autozone. Make sure motor is warm. All plugs out. Throttle wide open. Fuel pump fuse removed. |
Originally Posted by Car Analogy
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You should have also read on here not to use a Harbor Freight compression tester. They just don't work. At least not for high compression engines like ours.
I like HF. I buy a lot of tools there. Most of their stuff is decent. Some of it is excellent. Some of it is total junk. Their compression tester is at or near the junk category. Rent a gauge from a place like Autozone. Make sure motor is warm. All plugs out. Throttle wide open. Fuel pump fuse removed. |
The important thing if using a questionable gauge (or technique) is that all the readings are somewhat similar. If one stands out that is an indication of a problem.
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I had almost those exact readings when I did my test with that same HF tester. Read through the threads and saw the warning about the readings being low with the HF tester. I took it back and picked up one from Advanced Auto for a little more. It has the valve at the bottom instead of near the gauge. Redid the test and have the 230/240 that we are looking for. Those numbers are solid but if you’re like me, who wanted to know for sure, get a different tester. |
Originally Posted by Birdybog
(Post 24509541)
I had almost those exact readings when I did my test with that same HF tester. Read through the threads and saw the warning about the readings being low with the HF tester. I took it back and picked up one from Advanced Auto for a little more. It has the valve at the bottom instead of near the gauge. Redid the test and have the 230/240 that we are looking for. Those numbers are solid but if you’re like me, who wanted to know for sure, get a different tester. |
Originally Posted by tohlenforst
(Post 24509544)
Glad to hear, the engine pulls hard and feels really good so it seemed odd to see such low numbers. Because of the solid results, did you bother with the leak-down test?
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Hard to tell from the one photo, but the accessory belt looks to have a sheen on the surface. When was the last time you changed it?
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I tested with the same tester as you and got similar results, it lead me down a paranoid path thinking I'd be shopping for a new motor soon. Long story short, everything is fine and the car tested at leakdown numbers below like 5% and tested normal compression numbers on a different gauge.
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Originally Posted by windhund116
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Hard to tell from the one photo, but the accessory belt looks to have a sheen on the surface. When was the last time you changed it?
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Originally Posted by Chibo
(Post 24509561)
I tested with the same tester as you and got similar results, it lead me down a paranoid path thinking I'd be shopping for a new motor soon. Long story short, everything is fine and the car tested at leakdown numbers below like 5% and tested normal compression numbers on a different gauge.
Did you use a Harbor Freight leak-down tester or did you opt to go with something a little nicer? I'm pretty sure I've got a leak(s) based on the oil on the exterior of the engine. More than anything, before I continue doing work on the car (needs a lot of body work and misc engine work) I just want to make sure the engine is healthy since that's priority #1. |
BTW see you are using a K&N filter many people consider using an OEM filter on these to be a must. Dont want to start another engine oil or filter debate though.
No, that leak is not a source of any low compression. |
Originally Posted by lookstoomuch
(Post 24509565)
BTW see you are using a K&N filter many people consider using an OEM filter on these to be a must. Dont want to start another engine oil or filter debate though.
No, that leak is not a source of any low compression. |
FYI, a leakdown tester won't find external oil leaks. It only finds internal 'air' leaks. It only tells you where your loss of compression is coming from.
From all indications you don't really have any loss of compression (we'll know for sure once you test with a good gauge). So a leakdown test isn't going to have any worthwhile results to offer. |
+1 with the other guys -- I've used the HF tester and get similarly [low-but-consistent] results.
I always make the argument that consistency is all that matters, as opposed to the raw high numbers that people are chasing, but people just don't care. Be careful with that o-ring replacement -- follow Billman250's instructions to the dot (you do NOT want to remove the bolt too much or you'll be screwed): https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-un.../#post23054279 |
Originally Posted by Car Analogy
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FYI, a leakdown tester won't find external oil leaks. It only finds internal 'air' leaks. It only tells you where your loss of compression is coming from.
From all indications you don't really have any loss of compression (we'll know for sure once you test with a good gauge). So a leakdown test isn't going to have any worthwhile results to offer. |
Originally Posted by HarryD
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+1 with the other guys -- I've used the HF tester and get similarly [low-but-consistent] results.
I always make the argument that consistency is all that matters, as opposed to the raw high numbers that people are chasing, but people just don't care. Be careful with that o-ring replacement -- follow Billman250's instructions to the dot (you do NOT want to remove the bolt too much or you'll be screwed): https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-un.../#post23054279 |
Originally Posted by sk2_bri
(Post 24511523)
Also, what altitude are you at? I live at 5700 feet and that affects the numbers greatly. When I first saw readings around 195 psi I was worried also. But that is equivalent to about 230 psi at sea level.
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