I have been toying with the idea of SC past couple of weeks. Here is my dilemma:

On the one hand, everyone with SC seems to be quite thrilled with the extra power at hand. Power train weakness is also manageable since I don't drag! On the other hand, it defeats the purpose for which this car was born.

I had an Integra GSR awhile ago. A dime a dozen. Everybody modified with reasoneable power gains. I did too. Then I had an Integra Type R. Great out of the box. It even took a good couple of years before useful mods became available since the car first came out. But then I didn't want to modify it. A great deal of ingenuity went into the ITR to make it what it was. An amazing FF handler, Top five highest specific output for all N/A cars in the world. One of the highest revving prodution engienes of its time (1995-6), etc. Now with modification sure I would have had a faster car, but not a SPECIAL car. A turbo made a lot more power on that magnificent little engiene, but it made just as much, if not more, on any B18 engiene, tuned properly.

So my point is that now I have a car that is truely unique in many ways. I like the fact that I have the highest revving highest specific output production N/A engiene in the world in my car. It isn't the fastest on the street, but it is one of a kind. I get a kick out of that. I enjoy owning a marvolus piece of technology, a little jewel of Mechanical genious. With a SC, I'll be much faster, but I would own a modified engiene that is not so special in so many ways. Sure 300hp for a blown 2 liter is still pretty remarkable, but there are many modified engienes that are not so special and more or less match up to an SCed F20C.

So tell me that I am full of $hit and I should just shut up and SC the hell out of my engiene or call a or whatever. I'd like to hear it.

 

i see things your way. the F20C along with the rest of the car is just a magnificent piece of automotive engineering. to some, it's just another car to fix up. i try to make improvements to the car that don't take away from it's unique mechanical and structural design. but i don't think i'll ever be boosting it or lowering the rev limit to accomodate a stroker kit. now if a 10000rpm V8 short stroke S3000 comes out someday, i may be persuaded otherwise, but until then...

i think our tendency is to be dissatisfied with what we have. i never knew how much i loved the car until i lost my 02. it makes me appreciate the 03 by ten fold.

Richard

 

What is it that YOU want?
You will find people on this board that will go either way and everything in-between.
My thought is that you want to keep it the way it is. You love the feel of having a NA 120 hp per liter go cart. Keep er stock. Let somebody else have a blast with the mods. Just kick back and watch in amazement as the envelope gets pushed farther and farther.

 

I think what you are forgetting to realize is that not many have a supercharged or turbo charged s2000. Yes, many have turbo 2.0 litre's as a single defining category but not many have a turbo s2k or a supercharged s2k or a very lightweight well handling all motor s2k. Every car in this world is unique in it's own way. To say modifications ruin a car is untrue because it does not ruin it for the owner who modified the car. That person modified the car to suit what they thought it should be or as closest as they could get it to what they think it should be. If for you having simply the car and enjoying it just how it comes is fine but for many others it is not totally what they are statisfied with. You can not truely say it lowers or raises the value of a car to keep it stock or to modify it because every individual would take what you have done with it differently because each person has their own views. So you should decide for yourself what you think the car should be like and to everyone else who would continue to disagree with whatever you decide should themselves shut up because they do not pay your bills...

Lets ride!

bryan

 

Sounds to me like Cyberorth is just on the fence about it, and is trying to talk himself down.

Good Luck!

 

Which do you want...

1) A faster car that you'll enjoy modifying

OR

2) A slower car that you can stand next to claiming it puts out a lot of HP/liter NA.

Both are quite fun, but not to go FI merely because it ruins the ability to tell people how special your engine is seems like a pretty silly excuse to tell yourself.

 

I think it's less of a faster car / slower car analogy and more like the loss of the purpose of a high revving naturally aspirated design. For example, people who are doing swaps into an Integra or a Civic know better than to buy a B18C5 and boost it. It's a waste of money and a perfectly sound NA motor that could go to someone who appreciates it for what it is. A lower compression B18B or B18C1 or B17A is a more plausible candidate for boost. The same goes for the F20C. Why waste a beautifully high strung NA motor by boosting it? In the end, you'd get a more reliable 300hp out of a 2.0L low compression high boost motor.

I believe it's more of a voice of thoughts about boosting rather than an excuse not to boost.

 

Since this thread is titled "Mechanical Genius" how about a little metal cutting and welding. Put two F20C's together to make a 480 hp straight/V/Flat 8. Keep the 9000rpm red line, the 120 hp/liter and NA!

 

ok honestly...I'd love to have an SC in my car...just for the fun of it but:

1. I can't afford it
2. I can't afford any catastrophic damages it may cause.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cyberorth
[B]So tell me that I am full of $hit and I should just shut up and SC the hell out of my engiene or call a or whatever.