New OEM filter made by Fram?
I did see the one where he played a young Buddha? (or was it some other far east religious guy?) 
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Originally posted by s2ka
I don't see any comedy there, you were arrogant and rude to the rep, he was very professional with his responses. Just top it off with 10/30 dino oil and do your first oil change according to the guidelines in the manual.
I don't see any comedy there, you were arrogant and rude to the rep, he was very professional with his responses. Just top it off with 10/30 dino oil and do your first oil change according to the guidelines in the manual.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Boit
[B]Sheister is correct. If Honda recognizes only THEIR OWN filter as meeting warranty specs then Honda must supply that filter. They can't arbitrarily demand certain parts as meeting warranty spec without supplying them during the warranty period. It's like only accepting the break-in oil as THE only oil to be used during the break-in period. Well, these engines consume oil during break-in and Honda DOES NOT make this special break-in oil available to us. I just had a lengthy discussion/debate about the break-in oil with the Honda Corporate Rep. It was like that old comedy routine "Who's On First". The only concrete answers I got were these:
[B]Sheister is correct. If Honda recognizes only THEIR OWN filter as meeting warranty specs then Honda must supply that filter. They can't arbitrarily demand certain parts as meeting warranty spec without supplying them during the warranty period. It's like only accepting the break-in oil as THE only oil to be used during the break-in period. Well, these engines consume oil during break-in and Honda DOES NOT make this special break-in oil available to us. I just had a lengthy discussion/debate about the break-in oil with the Honda Corporate Rep. It was like that old comedy routine "Who's On First". The only concrete answers I got were these:
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Originally posted by Boit
I'm just a little curious as to why the Rep couldn't just tell me that it was Mobil. Honda's secrecy seems excessive to me.
I'm just a little curious as to why the Rep couldn't just tell me that it was Mobil. Honda's secrecy seems excessive to me.
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Triple: I got the impression that the Rep was not only limited in the knowledge of cars in general, but that he seemed to be very careful about giving me specific information. The one time that he put me on hold to check on an answer for me, he seemed nervous when he returned. I wonder if there was a supervisor standing over his shoulder from that point. He was polite and courteous so I really don't know what to make of the whole thing.
