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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 10:51 AM
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Well considering Aluminum is softer then steel and how fine the threads are, the head should naturally strip first. If I took a guess, it would be somewhere in the vicinity of 35lb to start over taxing and probably another 10-15lb of applied force before total failure, so roughly 45-50lb.

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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Billman250
Originally Posted by cosmomiller' timestamp='1445273898' post='23779921
spark plug failed before the head threads stripped
Correct.

Was able to click off 75 ft-lbs.

When I stepped up to 80, the threads broke off the spark plug in the head.

Was able to spin the broken threaded piece out with pliers from the cylinder side.

Afterwards, I put a new plug in the hole. It went in with slight resistance as the threads were barely deformed.

Was able to torque to spec no problem. It could likely take another 70 ft-lbs.

Good insurance that 24-26 ft-lbs is super safe.

A lose plug will allow combustion gas to torch the threads resulting in stripping. Very safe to say if the threads are stripped, it was followed by torching.
Wow impressive. A bit more then I thought! and that the plug essentially failed first.
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 10:56 AM
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Thank you jfo?
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 11:32 AM
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Yes used his pitted head as a test mule
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 11:33 AM
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Interesting, thats a lot more torque than I would have thought.
Did you try it in more than one plug hole?
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by flanders
Interesting, thats a lot more torque than I would have thought.
Did you try it in more than one plug hole?
This. More data points would probably be best in this case. Not that I care much, since the 24-26 lbs is what I go by and I'm miles from that... but at least from a data perspective it might be best to test a couple more. Also, is the condition of that donor head uncompromised in terms of the metallurgy? If an aluminum head is exposed to too much heat, won't it affect the brittleness of some areas?
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 01:00 PM
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The head sat outside and got pitted here and there. Nothing will change from another hole, but can't hurt to try.

Going to test the camwheel bolt hole as well.
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 03:04 PM
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Good info. I'm assuming you didn't use any anti seize compound?
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 05:49 PM
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 06:08 PM
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Billman, be interesting to note what the tightness-failure torque would be, if the head & plugs went through a series of heating to operating temp and cooling to ambient.

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