I'm guessing you have a Speed Craft turbo kit,... and if you have notice, I'm not talking any crap or saying that my kit will make more HP, plus this is my personal project (Project Turbo S2K). And I will have dyno sheet posted when I'm finished, big hp or not, it will be fast.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by derryck
[B]Where's the dyno?

 

Lets not start with who's turbo kit is better etc. S2KYSK's opinion on speedcraft is that it is crap but vertigo didn't say it. Xerd and now Vertigo is trying to develop a kit for our car. I say lets give them and anyone else willing to develop more products on our cars support as it will eventually create a better market with better products for our cars.

P.S. Chris hows your car doing now? What boost are your running for daily driving and what is max boost that you have ran on your setup? Has any other problems arisen lately?

 

I was the first Speedcraft turbo... started the whole thing and the first manifold for my car was not a log style that the Speedcraft uses now it was tubular. Dwight decided to go with the log style primarily because it was much easier and took much less time to make. A tubular manifold would have driven the price of the Speedcraft kit up by about $1,500-$2,000 and when the biggest complaint about the Speedcraft set up is the price.... that wouldn't be very cost effective. Anyone who has been in a Speedcraft turbo'ed S2000 knows that the car is MUCH faster than stock and pulls much harder even down low. I'm all for people doing their own thing but why bash somebody else when you don't even have any first hand experience with what you're talking about. I've seen several posts bashing Speedcraft and have yet to see one of those posters come through with 'the goods'. I wonder if they know what kind of ass they're making of themselves....

 

I hear you. Who would want to cut in to profit margin, specially when you have monopoly in the market. Put out sloppy manifold (please don't insult my intelligence by saying things like someone doing R and D in designing this manifold, I have seen the manifold) add some decent parts, selling at a premium price. Makes good business sense.
But derryck, question is why are you so defensive about your turbo? Why calling names?

I just wanted to complement Vertigo-Pro's (in my opinion) beautifully fabricated manifold, and only thing I could compare to was speed craft's (like I said monoploy). I just can't get over how elegent the design is.

 

Dude, Speedcraft (and/or those involved in creating it) spent X amount of time creating a turbo, all the piping etc. They sell it and some people bought it. We're not talking about Microsoft here. You don't need the turbo kit for your car to run. It's not against the law for a company to make money. That's what they're supposed to do.

The log style is easier to reproduce, and therefore costs less. This is a custom manifold for one car. It appears to be more optimizes for the application. End of story.

So the Speedcraft kit sucks now?

If you want to take your car down for a month or two, and spend all of the research and time to do it yourself, go ahead. OR you could spend an extra $1000-$1500 and have everything shipped to your door, including phone support, and lean on the experience of others with the same kit.

Chris

 

Hey everyone, I just want everyone to get along and be happy that we all have S2000s. If I didn't own one, I wouldn't even start this project. I have plenty respect for the speedcraft turbo kit, Personally, the time they spent to develop that kit ...I give props. Thanks S2KYSK for the complements and support 0n my project so far. I should have my project done within the next 2 weeks, I'm just waiting on parts to come in....so stay tune

 

Boy, so much hostility...

I apologize if I offended anyone, at this point least two, derryck and cjb80.
Chris, to borrow your own comments about the Speedcraft's manifold "The Speedcraft and Rev Hard manifolds look mediocer (sp?) at best."

I never stated Speedcraft kit sucks. "Put out sloppy manifold (please don't insult my intelligence by saying things like someone doing R and D in designing this manifold, I have seen the manifold) [B]add some decent parts[B]." So, see . you and I both agree that Speedcrafts manifold aren't the greatest. So, let's not argue a mute point and go back to Vertigo-Pro's project.

 

I'm not offended or anything, and I hope you didn't take my post as offensive. I just didn't understand the logic.. I have nothing personal invested in the Speedcraft manifold. It does it's job just fine.

I don't expect that there would be more than a 5-10 hp gain if I were to swap out with a tubular manifold. After you have a (Speedcraft namely) turbo installed 5-10 hp gains is not worth the money involved to change everything around for a relatively small gain.

If I were to swap manifolds I would do it it so that I could mount a larger turbo. If I were to start all over again, of course I would make a tubular manifold, but there is a pretty big investment to do that..

Chris

 

First of all... I haven't had my S2000 for almost a year let alone the turbo. I get my enjoyment out of building the car... when it's done the fun is gone for me. I already sold my BMW and am starting on my Lexus and I already stated that I really liked the Vertigo-Pro manifold... it's very nice but like I said, it's just not really cost effective. Would I pay for it... sure, but I'm not the norm. If you really want that kind of manifold... Speedcraft or Stage 6 can fabricate you one... will that drive the cost of the kit even higher, of course it will. Will you see a large hp increase... probably not, that's my point. I don't think your car is even running but you're going to come onto this forum and insult a personal friend of mine... how would expect me to react? There are other turbo kits on the market that have been out as long as Speedcrafts'. When we showed my car at NOPI the DRAG kit was there... it just didn't produce the numbers that the Speedcraft kit did but it was much prettier... we all saw the pics. I think most everyone that has bought the Speedcraft kit has been pretty happy with their purchase... it makes the car ALOT more fun to drive IMO.