is there any way to remove them with out an impact driver?

 

i've used a 3lb hammer and an impact driver wrench with the right Phillips head. get a good quality phillips head so that you get the screw off without stripping it.

 

try this...it worked for me. tighten all your lugs against the rotor, then take a hammer and bang on the end of the screwdriver. it should come loose after that try it a few times you might have to hit it really hard

 

Heeltoe style
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/pitboard/?p=143

 

impact driver is the best bet, I just removed 16 of those babies two weeks ago on two Hondas. It is very easy.

If you don't want to do that get a big philips screwdriver and pound on the end of it about 12 times and then try to crack it loose.

A good friend of mine always heats them up with a torch whenever he does it.

Lastly, there was a post recently about freezing them with compressed air, use a keyboard compressed air cleaner turning it upside down and spraying for 30 seconds to freeze the screw.

 

whatever way you get them off good trick is put anti seize on the screws when you put them back in, be alot easier to take them out down the road..

 

drill the heads off and don't bother with them ever again.

 

this:
http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.as...9059_0006393038

 

Northern Tool sells the impact screwdriver thingy for ~$10.

I did our AP1 without the tool. Wound up stripping the heads of the screws and having to drill the stinkers out.

When I was working on the CR, they wouldn't come free easily... so I went and got the tool.

WD-40 + impact screwdriver + hammer = success.

And I used anti-seize in them when I put them back.

 

a nicely weighted hammer - 3 lbs ?, helps in conjunction with the impact driver, hit it a few times and make sure it bottoms out each time and the screws will come loose most of the time.