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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 03:43 PM
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I was just curious how many people are running these? This seller >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/150936939414...84.m1438.l2649 says that the long one goes in the engine and the short one goes in the transmission. I read some threads where people were saying that its the other way around. So which one goes where?

edit: I wonder whats Billman's opinion on magnetic drain plugs for the s2k!?
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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My opinion of magnetic plugs is they aren't going to catch much given the location of the drain plug. I had a ton of metal in my oil pan when my engine let go, but very little metal drained out of the drain hole. It probably doesn't hurt to have them but they aren't necessarily going to catch the larger metal particles because that stuff seems to stop in the center of the oil pan given the shape of the pan. Seen a few people who have lost parts of their magnetic plugs as they break, this is probably more prevalent on lower cost drain plugs and not necessarily the Spoons.
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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I mainly want it for the trans.
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 05:37 PM
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If you have metal chunks on a magnetic drain plug, you have problems. They are designed to collect metallic flakes and bits that you aren't going to see. They catch plenty, oil is constantly circulating through the engine, just don't expect to be scraping it off the magnet at every oil change.

The smaller one is for the transmission:

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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JFUSION
My opinion of magnetic plugs is they aren't going to catch much given the location of the drain plug. I had a ton of metal in my oil pan when my engine let go, but very little metal drained out of the drain hole. It probably doesn't hurt to have them but they aren't necessarily going to catch the larger metal particles because that stuff seems to stop in the center of the oil pan given the shape of the pan. Seen a few people who have lost parts of their magnetic plugs as they break, this is probably more prevalent on lower cost drain plugs and not necessarily the Spoons.
Did you check the metal bits which it didn't collect to see if they were magnetic?
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Originally Posted by dwight
Originally Posted by JFUSION' timestamp='1352255014' post='22134339
My opinion of magnetic plugs is they aren't going to catch much given the location of the drain plug. I had a ton of metal in my oil pan when my engine let go, but very little metal drained out of the drain hole. It probably doesn't hurt to have them but they aren't necessarily going to catch the larger metal particles because that stuff seems to stop in the center of the oil pan given the shape of the pan. Seen a few people who have lost parts of their magnetic plugs as they break, this is probably more prevalent on lower cost drain plugs and not necessarily the Spoons.
Did you check the metal bits which it didn't collect to see if they were magnetic?
I didn't have a magnetic drain plug. But I was just saying that given the drain pan design, heavier metallic parts tend to sit in the middle of the pan rather than making it to the drain plug area. There is a round metal ring under the oil pump pick-up that tends to trap larger particles and keeps them away from the drain plug. IMO magnetic drain plugs won't pick up the larger particles. It is like panning gold, the heavier particles setlle in certain areas of the oil pan before making their way to the drain plug region.
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 07:48 PM
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My thoughts:

Magnetic plug for the engine is pointless. The only things magnetic are the cams, cam gears, timing chain, oil pump lobes, crankshaft, rods, and rings. If any of that is wearing to the point of collecting on a drain plug, YOU HAVE ISSUES!! the NORMAL wear parts are either aluminum or some other soft metal (bearings) and none of that will stick to the magnet anyway.

Magnetic plug for the transmission is even more pointless. There is already an extremely powerful magnet within the transmission that cannot be removed unless the transmission halves are separated. It's more than powerful enough to last the life of the tranny.


Basically, I don't see either really being worth it at all.
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jordanksartell
My thoughts:

Magnetic plug for the engine is pointless. The only things magnetic are the cams, cam gears, timing chain, oil pump lobes, crankshaft, rods, and rings. If any of that is wearing to the point of collecting on a drain plug, YOU HAVE ISSUES!! the NORMAL wear parts are either aluminum or some other soft metal (bearings) and none of that will stick to the magnet anyway.

Magnetic plug for the transmission is even more pointless. There is already an extremely powerful magnet within the transmission that cannot be removed unless the transmission halves are separated. It's more than powerful enough to last the life of the tranny.


Basically, I don't see either really being worth it at all.
Okay thanks!
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 03:40 AM
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The large magnet will fit both the engine and trans.

If you really want magnetic protection for the engine, a filter-mag is the only way to go. I have a few sitting around.
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Billman250
The large magnet will fit both the engine and trans.

If you really want magnetic protection for the engine, a filter-mag is the only way to go. I have a few sitting around.

The spoon is what im using for my trans drain plug. Do you feel that it is of any benefit over long term for the trans?
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